Shot to 800 yards last Sat, hope this wasn't a fluke

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Load data and ballistics data appears to be pretty good because the range call I made with the mil-dots and the elevation I dialed in was pretty much spot on.

Came out to roughly 800 yards through the mil readings after ranging a 28x30 inch cardboard box that I had taped my target sheets to, big yellow pieces of paper that I simply wanted to print on.

I also ran my 13x13 inch steel plate out to a distance slightly beyond the cardboard to use for audible confirmation that I'm making hits at range. My friend was out spotting with me, after the range call I sent my first round down range. He called it as having good elevation but being about a foot to the right. There was some stiff wind blowing from our left so I adjusted for a full mil holding to the left and I was still blown off target. Made a minor adjustment and hit by the 4th round, it took almost 4 seconds to hear the "clang" of the steel being knocked over at that distance.

Once I felt I had a rough zero I took some shots on my piece of paper. I'll post the picture later but I fired 5 shots and had 5 hits on paper. I was expecting much more dispertion than I got, at distance I had 5 shots grouped in roughly a 4x6 inch group. 3 shots within 3 inches along horizontal dispersion with 2 shots about 4-5 inches higher than the previous 3.

It wound up being a group that qualifies as sub-MOA at 800 yards, not too bad considering the rediculous wind we had and not having any data for wind values or holds/corrections.


My friend had his GPS unit along but he forgot how to make waypoints in it so that we could mark our target stand as one waypoint and our shooting position as the 2nd waypoint for getting a rough range in miles.

Might be going back out there tomorrow to do some more shooting and we will get a measurement with the GPS now that he has read the instruction book.


Also zapped 3 bunnies at around 150-200 yards using the squirrel rifle. Poor bunnies never had a chance.

Fired maybe a total of 20 rounds of 300 winmag, 20 rounds while dispatching vermin with some of those being used to bust the occasional rock waiting for a bunny to appear, and 20 rounds of 7.62Nato. It's the least amount of ammo I have fired while out for that length of time but I suppose they were quality rounds.


Here's the group as it was fired,

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What type of gear were you using?

I don't have any place around here to shoot that's further than 200yds :(
 
That's definately a money-shot.

Good shootin'.

Post tomorrow's results ASAP.

When I finally get my SDM upper built, I'm going to have to cruise out to your neck of the woods.

-Jim
 
Was a stock Remington 700P in 300WinMag with a Leupold 6.5-20x M1 mildot on top of a Badger Ord 20MOA base with Badger Ord med rings.
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Load is a 200grn Sierra Match King on top of 65.0grns of IMR4350 with the bullets loaded out long to jump about .020 to the lands.

Was figuring around 2800fps and it seems like I am hitting close to that from the 20MOA of elevation I needed from my 100 yard zero. I need to get a chronograph soon so I can get accurate data for use with ballistics programs once I've settled on a load.

The above load was the result of regular RCBS sizing and seating dies. I've got 50 more rounds ready to go that were prepared by using only a Redding Type S neck sizing die and a Redding competition seating die. Powder, bullet, and OAL load length remains the same. Will be interesting to see if I can tighten things up a tad simply with the attention to detail in the new dies and loading.

Previous load was a pretty solid 1/2 MOA load at 100 yards. Pretty much settled on the 200grn SMK and have settled on IMR4350 for the powder. Just gonna play with neck tension, seat depth, and final charge weight now which I hope to wrap up within the next 100 rounds. Hope is to finalize the load so that I can put in actual work shooting to various ranges. I figure I have maybe 1k rounds left on the factory barrel before it's done and needs a rebarrel, at that time rifle is going to GA Precision to be rebuilt.



As for poor Lincoln, it wasn't another assassination attempt. I just put the 5 spot on the target as a rough reference for the size of the groups. What's interesting is I cropped the pic so that the bill pops up on screen almost actual size if you use a 800x600 screen res(depending on monitor), hold a bill up to the screen to see what I mean.
 
Something in this thread sounded familiar, I just couldn't place it. Then I realized it was the same Uglygun from firearms forum. I always enjoy reading about your shooting "projects". Oh, and good shooting.
 
Young grasshoppa, soon you will realize that I am everywhere....

About the only plague upon gun forums that is more widespread is the infamous "GunKid", I'd like to think I'm actually useful where as the same can't be said about GunKid and his many alias'.
 
Yep, the whole intent behind why I bought the rifle and built it the way I did was to stretch the legs on the 300WinMag. 1-1.2k yards is how far I'd like to shoot this thing.

I'm 1/2 tempted to switch to 300RUM when the rebuild comes so that I can get even further to like 1500-1600 yards or more, though a new base or atleast a scope with more elevation would be needed.

As it stands now, if I could drive a 200grn SMK to 2900fps I should be able to reach 1200 yards with the elevation I have left in the scope.
 
Fluke?
Take it to an F-class match and see if it will do that all day.
My old '06 will hold the black at 1000 yards but not a lot better due to my lack of experience in the wind but it sure is fun.
 
I wouldn't mind going out to shoot a couple matches, even if they aren't really for record as the shooting I do is usually off of a pack with a rear rest.

Not sure if F-class allows for use of rests and the like. Don't have much desire to get into firing with the use of a sling from the prone.


My desire is to get into shooting that is more tactical oriented and doing a few of the related competitions with that group of precision minded shooters. Going to a few 1k yard shoots to wring out the gun and loads would be one thing but my preferred manner of shooting might not be within the rules for that class that my gun would fit into.
 
Hey Ugly, remember that there is that 1000 yard range out by Cuyuma and they shoot the third Sunday of every month. They are quite informal and they allow F class, which means any site, any rest. You can use your bipod. Heck you can use one of them fancy Sinclair adjustable rests. You can use whatever you want. Send me another e-mail and I can give you directions.
 
Ugly, good shooting and a good shooting rifle.

Yes, F-class allows rests (I think ONE rest, not two, but I could be wrong). I would definitely go out and do that if I were you. Even if you want to start moving toward tactical shooting, the F-class bullseye matches will give you quantitative results that you can bank on when you don't have yardage markers at your disposal.
 
Good shooting, I had very similar results with my Remington Sendero in the .300WM. I use 180gr Ballistic Tips with great results at about 3075fps. It's fun waiting a couple of seconds to hear the bullet smack the target. :D
 
My short definition is that F-Class is Long Range shot prone with artificial support allowed instead of sling, coat, and glove.

It is usually divided into two divisions.
Tactical, for which the rifle must be in a military caliber, normally .308 (but they let me shoot my old '06) with bipod or sandbag rest only.
And Open, which is essentially a benchrest rifle and rest(s) on the ground instead of a bench.

I am not a dedicated target rifle shooter like Steve, but it is good to get a gun out of the closet and give it a real workout. I got to the point years ago that working up loads and shooting groups was no longer interesting in and of itself. Getting out with a bunch of other people and doing the same thing under the same conditions and keeping score is miles better, whether it is at 10 feet with a Glock (IDPA) 600 yards with a .38-55 (BPCR) or 1000 yards with an '06 (F-Class.) Anything besides competition and practice is just plinking, to me.
 
The nice thing about the Tri-Valley range is it is way informal as far as rules go. It is mainly a bunch of old guys out shooting their suped up long range guns with slings and iron sites and the whole 9 yards. It only costs $5 to shoot the match! I think once or twice a year they shoot for actual scoring and report it to the NRA. Other than that, it is very informal and I think you would really enjoy it.

They alternate every month. One month is 40 rounds at 1000 yards and the next month is Palma at 800, 900, and 1000. 15 rounds each.
 
I've actually been there and met some of the guys that shoot in Cuyama. Came back from Ventura over the 33 once specifically so I can find the range and see what's going on. They seem to be pretty content being a small affair and trying to stay lowkey. Might look to put in some shots there one of these days but we'll see.
 
Is there a website or other online info about the Mildot reticle? I'm interested in learning more about long range shooting. Are there other reticle types that are good for long range work?

I've plinked with a 1903-A3 out to 800 yards, but am thinking about building a decent scoped long range gun on a Springfield action.
 
No breaks in F class

No 1,000yds either... F class is 600Meters where I shoot. We have a 1000M range but unless you want to dedicate a rifle for that kind of shooting, I wouldn't bother as you'll not be able to get on target at 100yds once you put the 20MOA bases on your rifle (at least I can't and none of the guys I shoot with can). So I have a second scope and base for 1,000 and a different one for "F" class.

Im shooting 6MM XC with the 107s out of a Hart barreled M10 Savage in a McMillan prone stock. Nowhere near the recoil of the 30s and more accurate to boot... but reloading is much more complicated.... and expensive.
 
Get a decent scope with around 65MOA of internal elevation and a 20MOA base should allow a 308Win or 30-06 to have a 100 yard zero plus still be able to reach to 1000 yards.

A 175grn SMK in the 308Winchester(running around 2700fps if I remember correct) can get to 1000 yards while staying supersonic with around 42-45MOA typically, that is reachable from a 100 yard zero using a 20MOA base provided the scope has a decent amount of elevation within the tube. Not something grossly limited like a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x which has like 32MOA between extremes of it's travel leaving you maybe 13-16MOA of useable elevation after zeroing at 100 yards.
 
Thanks, this gives me a good starting place.

About 20 years ago I had a Leatherwood ART scope. Nice outfit, but only went to 600 meters. Still wish I hadn't sold it tho.

What's the "SMK"? Sierra Match King?

Anybody know how good the Springfields were made to shoot at long range? I have a weak spot for them.
 
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