Shotgun feed problems- Jamming like bob marley

[Rustle in the bushes]

Im the proud owner of a 14" fabarm pump shotgun. I stinkin love it for its features, weight, its a fun gun that I keep around when I go camping in case of a zombie bear that doesnt respond to bear spray. Sadly it has a feeding problem that has occured 4-5 times, Ive never had this problem with my other pumps.

1. when loading shells into the tube it seems that the shell goes in and is locked in the mag as usual. It isnt because...

2. the shell comes loose out of the mag, usually when pumping. This causes the shell to fall into the loading port.

3. Now I must remove the barrel and strip the action, clear it out of the loading port and reassemble the gun. It gets locked in and I cant just eject it out of the side. Not a good scene for an emergency gun.

My thinking is the spring is too tight in there and causing the shells to pop out when people dont shove the shells in there. It doesnt happen to me too much cause I really jam em in there but it bothers me. I figure I should cut the spring a bit to relieve some of the tension- has anyone dealt with this before?

 

[Ditchtiger]

check the shell latches.
That's the fingers that keep shells in the mag tube.
One may be sticking and letting a shell get by.

 

[rcmodel]

14" = NFA weapon.
Hope you have it registered.

As for your problem, I have never seen a Fabarm pump.
But it is very unlikely to be a mag spring that is too strong.

If anything, it is a shell stop problem.
Or an operator error problem from not stuffing them in past the shell stops far enough.

rc

 

[mdThanatos]

He posted on another forum and that one says his location is Canada, not sure what their laws are regarding barrel length.

 

[Sam1911]

The only Fabarm pump gun I can find mention of is the FP6 (which seems to be re-badged as a H&K product).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_FABARM_FP6

Unfortunately I can't locate a schematic, and Numrich doesn't have any parts besides stocks.

I'd assume there's some problem with the shell stops/latches as wel, allowing the shell to pop free during cycling. But I don't know if they are operated by a spring that might be broken or missing? Or if it is even possible that there might be debris or rust in their recesses that is keeping them from moving properly.

I can't imagine that the mag spring tension is the problem. The latches should hold the shells in place against any spring tension, from the higher pressure of a fully loaded mag, to the little push of the very last shell.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

He posted on another forum and that one says his location is Canada, not sure what their laws are regarding barrel length.

I think that over 18" is unregulated but under 18, it has to be made at the factory with that barrel and it then can't be changed. 14" is legal in Canada.

 

[Rustle in the bushes]

hey thanks alot gents that clears things up quite a bit. Interesting about the latches thats definitely out of my wheelhouse Ill have to bring it into a gunsmith.
And yes in Canada we can have any length of shotgun barrel we like as long as it was factory production and not cut down. Funny- the silly a$$ laws we have but yall arent without some silly ones as well.

Im of a mind that a self-respecting young Canuck should own a bear shotgun

 

[foghornl]

Yes...those of us in the USA are stuck with some strange laws, too...and A LOT that vary from state to state, particularly with concealed carry.

Are the laws more uniform across Canada, or do they vary by province?

The more critical application of a firearm, the more is HAS to be reliable...Somehow, I just don't see Mr. Angry Grizzly honoring your request for a "Time Out" to unjam your shotgun... EEEEEEEEEEEEEK!

 

[Rustle in the bushes]

Hahaha yes well that's why I carry a big ribeye in the woods to feed the bear while I fix my gun. That's bear safety right?

Thing about Canada is firearms are pretty much federal so once you learn the confusing laws you're pretty much good.

Provinces will do certain things like Toronto won't allow ranges in the city, stuff like that as well as hunting regulations etc..

Nothing like you guys though with California and new York vs gun loving Texas.

 

[One_Jackal]

If you have never completely removed the shell stops from your receiver, the chances are good there is grease packed behind them. It doesn't sound like you have shot the gun enough to wear anything out.

Moreover, I wouldn't own a gun that requires so much effort to clear a jam. I would sell the POS. Then get a Mossberg 500 that has been proven reliable for over 50 years. It's not like you can carry enough steaks to keep the bear busy until you disassemble your gun.