Should I buy a S&W-686 or a Colt King Cobra ?

Which one, and why ?

  • Smith and Wesson Model 686 6" .357

    Votes: 61 69.3%
  • Colt King Cobra 6" .357

    Votes: 27 30.7%

  • Total voters
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I'm in the market to possibly add a 6" 357 revolver to my collection. I was planning on buying a smith 686, but then a little browsing on python prices ( too high for me ) brought the king cobra to my attention. I don't really know anything about the king cobra, nor have I had the opportunity to handle one. I do prefer the way it looks to the 686 though .. sort of python-esque, as it were. They seem to be attainable for basically the same price range. So, I'd appreciate it if those of you with more revolver knowledge than I would let me know which might be more desirable. And please say why you made that choice !
 
About a year ago I bought a new S&W 686+ and it was a nice revolver but I didn't really like the stainless finish. I found a .357 S&W 586 prelock in blue and bought it. I really like the looks and feel. I also have two Colt Trooper MKIIIs in .357 and they are great shooters and more affordable than Pythons. Pythons are nice shooters too, but not at the prices most are asking. Go with what you enjoy shooting and what you like the looks of. As you will see, every model you pick will have supporters and detractors:scrutiny:

John
 
The finishing on my 686+ wasn't quite even when I first bought it, but a little flitz metal polish, some 0000 steel wool and about 15 minutes and it looks great! I've never shot the Colt Python or King Cobra, so I can't speak to them. I certainly have no reason to dislike them (why not a "Both" voting option :D) But I definitely like my 686, it is much more accurate than my old Taurus 66 was, and the trigger is slicking up very nicely. Plus, it just feels right in my hands.

I wouldn't rule out the Ruger GP100, Security Six, and Single Six either. For that matter, I would also consider a 6" K Frame .357 as well, such as a Model 19 (blue) or 66 (stainless).

Ah heck, just buy 'em all!
 
I voted KING COBRA because I don't have one and if you can find an affordable one, get it now before the prices go up near PYTHON prices. You can always find a 686.
 
This is based only on my experience...I really like shooting the vintage 686's - smooth, accurate & reliable. Tough to beat those older S&W triggers! Plus, the only Cobra I've shot had a nasty trigger and it kinda killed the entire experience :banghead:
So, I voted 686 :D
 
I own "a few" Colt revolvers. They are beautiful guns, but I prefer shooting the K/L frame S&W revolvers. The Smiths just feel better to me.

I would pick the S&W over the Colt for a shooting gun. I'd pick the Colt for a collector gun. DC3 has a point about the price of Colt revolvers. The King Cobra at the same price as a 686 is a good deal.
 
why not a "Both" voting option
Because if I could afford both.. then I'd get a python ;) Actually, maybe I could afford either both, or the python .. but not if I also buy an XD45 which is already on the list.. hehe
Of course all these purchase ideas are applicable only when assuming I'll be able to buy any handguns anymore at all due to recent local permit changes, which is addressed in my post from yesterday
 
If you're a collector, get a Colt. If you want to shoot, get a 686. Some folks just don't like the Colts and I'm one of 'em. Don't like the actions, don't like the grips, but I've always appreciated the quality.

All things being equal (like price), I'd say the 686 is a better gun than a Python, and if you were going to drop me into the middle of nowhere for an extended period of survival, I'd take a 686 any time.

The Colts did have beautiful bluing, that's for sure.
 
If you can get both for about the same price in the same condition, I would get the King Cobra because of its resale value. They are very comparable revolvers performance wise and you would have some exclusivity with the Cobra since 686s are fairly common.
 
The 686 is one of the best all around revolvers you will find. In just about every poll I've seen that had the 686 as one of the choices it wins.
 
Hex:

I'm going to put in my 2 cents here without consideration that we're talking about a Ford vs. Chevrolet decision. If you're going to really shoot that shooter a lot, you might consider a criteria I apply for buying what I'm going to use (not look at or plink around with): Look first at what those that consistently win competitive shooting matches use and do. I apply that pretty much across the board - from smallbore to highpower to shotgun sports - to really get what's going to serve you best, look to those that depend on their equipment to take home the prize. I don't think that necessarily means you have to invest more; you just have to invest right.

In the more than four decades of PPC and those that use revolvers in practical shooting competitions disciplines, Smith and Wesson K and L frame revolvers (as I'm sure you know, the 686 is an L frame) have dominated the field. If you narrow that down to those that sought/seek to earn the Police Distinguished Badge and Service Gun championships (which requires a stock revolver with virtually no external modifications), S&W has dominated even more.

Why is this? I believe there are lots of reasons, but the main ones to me are:
1) Ease of tuning for double action shooting - K and L frame revolvers are fairly simple to smooth and lighten internally and still stay timed. There are lots of armorers out there who can do that in short order at a low cost. I have a bunch of them that when people pull the trigger, they say, "Wow! How did you get that so smooth?" I would venture to say that almost all 6" S&W factory barrels on guns shot from a Ransom Rest with match wadcutters or ball will stay within the X-ring on a B-27 target at 50 yards. It does a great deal of good to one's confidence when you know that the gun will do its job if you do yours on sight alignment and trigger control.
2) Lower entry and maintenance cost - the price on a new 686 is comparable to a King Cobra but the Python, as noted by others, is way out there. I have been out of competition for awhile, but I think I'm right in saying you won't see many of those on the firing line. IMHO it takes a lot more smithing to make any of the Colts meet the standards for double-action shooting that will satisfy winners. That equates to more expertise on the part of the smith which equates to more money for the shooter. Also, when internal parts on K and L frame S&Ws need replacing (after a few thousand rounds), you're not going to break the bank or have to look very far to get them. It's also easier to find after purchase accessories at reasonable prices for S&Ws vs. Colts. I'm talking about speed loaders, grips, holsters, etc.
3) In the competition disciplines mentioned above, most competitors build their open competition guns (what some call a race gun in practical shooting disciplines) on K or L frame actions. In addition to all the points in #1 and #2 above, if you shoot an open gun and service gun with the same grip size, your consistently gripping the same way all the time. BTW, you probably know that the K & L frames have the same grip size and grips that will fit on one will fit on the other.

Now, after all that, let me say that I think the Colt Python is the best engineered and finished double-action revolver that ever hit the market. I'm not too familiar with the King Cobra, but I thought the old Cobra was substandard compared to Smiths. I would love to have owned a Python, but that would have messed up both my pocket (purchase and tuning) and my mind with that cylinder and sights going the "wrong way" and having to have a whole new set of speedloaders. Also, there was only one guy I ever met that I would have trusted to work on my Python if I had one. That's Lt. Reeve Jungkind, Texas DPS. Clearly the smoothest, crispest action on a Python I ever felt. I tried using one that was issued to me for competition once and it about drove me crazy because I never could get it as smooth as Lt. Jungkinds.

I carried S&W revolvers (personally owned and issued) on duty from day one until retirement, a span of almost 30 years. I never had one of my service guns fail me on duty or on the range - and they got used - a lot.

Whatever you get, shoot it a lot and you'll be more proficient than 90 percent of handgun owners. I hope this helps you in making a decision. BTW I don't own any S&W stock, but I do own a new 460 Mag from the Performance Center - now there's a gun!!
 
Hex:

I'm going to put in my 2 cents here without consideration of us talking about a Ford vs. Chevrolet decision. If you're going to really shoot that shooter a lot, you might consider a criteria I apply for buying what I'm going to use (not look at or plink around with): Look first at what those that consistently win competitive shooting matches use and do. I apply that pretty much across the board - from smallbore to highpower to shotgun sports - to really get what's going to serve you best, look to those that depend on their equipment to take home the prize. I don't think that necessarily means you have to invest more; you just have to invest right.

In the more than four decades of PPC and those that use revolvers in practical shooting competitions disciplines, Smith and Wesson K and L frame revolvers (as I'm sure you know, the 686 is an L frame) have dominated the field. If you narrow that down to those that sought/seek to earn the Police Distinguished Badge and Service Gun championships (which requires a stock revolver with virtually no external modifications), S&W has dominated even more.

Why is this? I believe there are lots of reasons, but the main ones to me are:
1) Ease of tuning for double action shooting - K and L frame revolvers are fairly simple to smooth and lighten internally and still stay timed. There are lots of armorers out there who can do that in short order at a low cost. I have a bunch of them that when people pull the trigger, they say, "Wow! How did you get that so smooth?" I would venture to say that almost all 6" S&W factory barrels on guns shot from a Ransom Rest with match wadcutters or ball will stay within the X-ring on a B-27 target at 50 yards. It does a great deal of good to one's confidence when you know that the gun will do its job if you do yours on sight alignment and trigger control.
2) Lower entry and maintenance cost - the price on a new 686 is comparable to a King Cobra but the Python, as noted by others, is way out there. I have been out of competition for awhile, but I think I'm right in saying you won't see many of those on the firing line. IMHO it takes a lot more smithing to make any of the Colts meet the standards for double-action shooting that will satisfy winners. That equates to more expertise on the part of the smith which equates to more money for the shooter. Also, when internal parts on K and L frame S&Ws need replacing (after a few thousand rounds), you're not going to break the bank or have to look very far to get them. It's also easier to find after purchase accessories at reasonable prices for S&Ws vs. Colts. I'm talking about speed loaders, grips, holsters, etc.
3) In the competition disciplines mentioned above, most competitors build their open competition guns (what some call a race gun in practical shooting disciplines) on K or L frame actions. In addition to all the points in #1 and #2 above, if you shoot an open gun and service gun with the same grip size, your consistently gripping the same way all the time. BTW, you probably know that the K & L frames have the same grip size and grips that will fit on one will fit on the other.

Now, after all that, let me say that I think the Colt Python is the best engineered and finished double-action revolver that ever hit the market. I'm not too familiar with the King Cobra, but I thought the old Cobra was substandard compared to Smiths. I would love to have owned a Python, but that would have messed up both my pocket (purchase and tuning) and my mind with that cylinder and sights going the "wrong way" and having to have a whole new set of speedloaders. Also, there was only one guy I ever met that I would have trusted to work on my Python if I had one. That's Lt. Reeve Jungkind, Texas DPS. Clearly the smoothest, crispest action on a Python I ever felt. I tried using one that was issued to me for competition once and it about drove me crazy because I never could get it as smooth as Lt. Jungkinds.

I don't mention another criteria that you may be considering for your purchase - winning a gunfight. I carried S&W revolvers (personally owned and issued) on duty from day one until retirement, a span of almost 30 years. I never had one of my service guns fail me on duty or on the range - and they got used - a lot. But, lots of Coltsters could say that, too.

Whatever you get, shoot it a lot and you'll be more proficient than 90 percent of handgun owners. I hope this helps you in making a decision. BTW I don't own any S&W stock, but I do own a new 460 Mag from the Performance Center - now there's a gun!!
 
SA triggers will be quite nice on both. The 686 DA pull wins hands down over that of the King Cobra. I like the sights and the grip angle of modern Colt revolvers - the grip seems to let me get higher on the gun - but their heavy, stacking DA triggers eliminate them from consideration.
 
The last Colt King Cobra I saw (last week) was selling for $100 less than what I paid for my S&W Performance Center 586 L-Comp NIB. Given the choice between a plain old 686 and a King Cobra, I'd take the Colt. There are plenty more 686's made every day, and the differences in handling are really pretty minor.
 
I have shot a lot of different revolvers over the last 35 years. I really liked the Smith Model 19. I bought a 586 4", and it has become my all time favorite 357 mag. It has a fine balance and feels great to shoot. very accurate, smooth, solid. Not yet very expensive, not as popular as some Smith models.

Nothing against the Colt, but I love my 586.

Mark
 
I like the King cobra and the 686...For collections there great...But I vote for a S&W 66 with a 6 inch barrel...If you want something to carry in the field all day,, you can't beat a K frame...
 
I like the King cobra and the 686...For collections there great...But I vote for a S&W 66 with a 6 inch barrel...If you want something to carry in the field all day,, you can't beat a K frame...

I don't disagree with you Rich, k frames are sweet, but I already have a super nice 4" M66 tuned and jeweled. I was looking to get something a little different in this one, but I'm sure I'll continue to love the K.
 
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