Kruzr
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Changing out the MSH/Magwell is no big deal. If its the Kimber 2-part one, its even easier to take off the funnel. Don't let that stop you. What about the CDP?
Should I Give the 1911 ANOTHER Try?
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Changing out the MSH/Magwell is no big deal. If its the Kimber 2-part one, its even easier to take off the funnel. Don't let that stop you. What about the CDP?
Denny Hansen
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Brad Nelson over at Lightfighter is taking orders to have a few guns made by Kimber which will be extremely close (as close as possible) to the new MEU(SOC) Interim CQB pistol recently adapted by Det including the Dawson rail. If you've got the extra cash, this is one very good 1911.
Denny
Denny
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Skunk, I too went through the what to get, in a 1911. I settled on a Springfield mil-spec. Tight as all get out. Accurate too. I had a tail, sights, trigger, and throated all dodne to this pistol .Did it need it? No. I went for astetics. Years later I wanted a factory gun with these features. I bought a Para P14 Limited. I am happy with both guns. Talk to someone with the gun you like, go the range and shoot the said guns and make a choice. I did and I am happy.
If you don't need a light rail, and want night sights, the Kimber CDP is also a choice. You can choose between full size, Commander size, and Officer's size (to borrow Colt terminology). My brother has three Series II Kimbers and thinks they're great - they appear to work fine for him.
I still think a Colt 1991A1 with added night sites will get you hooked on Ponies.
I still think a Colt 1991A1 with added night sites will get you hooked on Ponies.
Gunslinger45
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So Skunkabilly this is where you've been hiding. We've missed you at the IDR.
By all means try another 1911. I'm sorry to hear about your bad experiences with your 1911's, especially the Kimber. I've had little to no trouble with mine. But it's my experience that I have to have some modifications done to any 1911 before it fits my hand and shoots the way I want it too. That's one reason I went with Kimber. The gun had most of the mods I wanted on a 1911 at a price I could live with. Plus I added a few of my own. Now I wouldn't trade mine for any other type of handgun.
But I have a special reason for liking the 1911. With the geometry and size of my hands it is the only auto that I can hold and shoot well, after the addition of slim grips and a mid-length trigger (or with standard grips and a short trigger). The only mechanism I can't reach without altering my grip is the mag release (but this is true for me with all autos).
But give John Browning's gun another try. I'm sure that if you are patient you'll learn to love it.
By all means try another 1911. I'm sorry to hear about your bad experiences with your 1911's, especially the Kimber. I've had little to no trouble with mine. But it's my experience that I have to have some modifications done to any 1911 before it fits my hand and shoots the way I want it too. That's one reason I went with Kimber. The gun had most of the mods I wanted on a 1911 at a price I could live with. Plus I added a few of my own. Now I wouldn't trade mine for any other type of handgun.
But I have a special reason for liking the 1911. With the geometry and size of my hands it is the only auto that I can hold and shoot well, after the addition of slim grips and a mid-length trigger (or with standard grips and a short trigger). The only mechanism I can't reach without altering my grip is the mag release (but this is true for me with all autos).
But give John Browning's gun another try. I'm sure that if you are patient you'll learn to love it.
Andrew Wyatt
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I've been told quite forcefully by Pat Rogers the MCLMM pistol is not kosher in california.
Will Fennell
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Skunk......
Get another 1911.....NO handgun lets you delivery major caliber precision hits, 0-to 50 yards , as fast as a properly set up 1911. NOTHING.
Either pony up and get a WISLON CQB, or do what you probally want to do....
Get either a new COLT 5" gun[prefered] or a Springfield Mil-spec, and send it to somebody like EGW for a basic package like this.....
http://www.egw-guns.com/egw.htm
The TACTICAL carry package, $400 and you get everything you need. Mainly, the assurance that a master gunsmith has had his grubby fingers on the internals of your pistol, to ensure it runs, it has a good trigger, and it shoots where its aimed. Aimed with good sights.
Oh yeah, don't forget the CARBON FIBER GRIPS
Get another 1911.....NO handgun lets you delivery major caliber precision hits, 0-to 50 yards , as fast as a properly set up 1911. NOTHING.
Either pony up and get a WISLON CQB, or do what you probally want to do....
Get either a new COLT 5" gun[prefered] or a Springfield Mil-spec, and send it to somebody like EGW for a basic package like this.....
http://www.egw-guns.com/egw.htm
The TACTICAL carry package, $400 and you get everything you need. Mainly, the assurance that a master gunsmith has had his grubby fingers on the internals of your pistol, to ensure it runs, it has a good trigger, and it shoots where its aimed. Aimed with good sights.
Oh yeah, don't forget the CARBON FIBER GRIPS
Hi Skunk,
As many others have suggested, the SIG P220ST is outstanding. SIGS are highly reliable righ out of the box. The P22ST makes shooting tight groups easy.
That said, I understand the "need" for a tactical 1911. I love the feel of the Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special. But, I look at buying any 1911 as a project. I expect that I will need to send it back tweeking. I'll be sending my TRS back to L.B. to make the thumb safety a little stiffer. Other than than it shoots great.
If you can find one, or don't mind a relatively long wait, the Valtro is a beautifully made pistol.
Good luck,
Rich
As many others have suggested, the SIG P220ST is outstanding. SIGS are highly reliable righ out of the box. The P22ST makes shooting tight groups easy.
That said, I understand the "need" for a tactical 1911. I love the feel of the Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special. But, I look at buying any 1911 as a project. I expect that I will need to send it back tweeking. I'll be sending my TRS back to L.B. to make the thumb safety a little stiffer. Other than than it shoots great.
If you can find one, or don't mind a relatively long wait, the Valtro is a beautifully made pistol.
Good luck,
Rich
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Denny, like Andrew said, no MCLMMs in California. Alpha mike foxtrot, Governor Davis 
CDP...looked at one today...kind of a neat setup, but it doesn't have my name on it like the 'Kimber TACTICAL' does. On the other hand...if it were called the 'CDI'.....
I think I like the feel of the alum guns. I know it's not the way God and JMB intended it, but I like the external extractor and night sights.
CDP...looked at one today...kind of a neat setup, but it doesn't have my name on it like the 'Kimber TACTICAL' does. On the other hand...if it were called the 'CDI'.....
I think I like the feel of the alum guns. I know it's not the way God and JMB intended it, but I like the external extractor and night sights.
Andrew Wyatt
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I'm not sure why they're not kosher in california, as they only need to be listed for 100 dollars, not retested, as kimber already makes a gun with the same safety systems.
Denny Hansen
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Sorry, should have remembered where you reside
Skunkability, the one thing you did say was "tired of screwing with my guns, I want something thats good to go, out of the box" Well my friend, I too love the P7M8, and it is "good to go" out of the box; but yes the drills can be a hassle with it. My suggestion would be: Browning HP, Glock, XD, and HK USPc. They are all "good to go", reliable as any gun can be; and at least three of them you won't mind tossing around. Hell, get em all and have fun!
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