Should I shoot em?

[nixpap]

I loaded up some Lee 158 gr LSWC GC from ACWW (drop around 162 or so) to shoot out of my Ruger sp101 357 mag with a 3 inch barrel. I made some with 10 gr Blue Dot and 10.5 gr BD.Also used cci 500 spp. I'm getting conflicting load data ( some say go,some say no go) and now feel unsure as to weather their too stout. if ok to shoot do you think i'll have a lot of unburned powder? I hate to waste them but I want to be safe.keep my gun safe too.Comments please...thanks nixpap

 

[gamestalker]

I don't know much about lead, but I see Alliant shows a 158 LSWC with Blue Dot @ 10.3 gr. max, which puts your 10.5 over the top by .2 grs.. And considering yours are weighing in at 162, I would think you might be pushing the envelope?

And even with jacketed 158's the max is 10.7, so that 10.5 might be a bit over the top?

GS

 

[rcmodel]

Normally, the thing to do, is to start out at the STARTING load.
Then test them in your gun.

Then work up from there.

So, the question then becomes?
How many did you load before determining they might be too hot?

And why did you do that?

FWIW: Older Lyman #47 1992 manual says 10.9 Blue Dot with a 158 LRN #358311 bullet is a max load.
(1,316 FPS at 39,200 CUP.)

Newer Lyman #49 2008 manual says the same thing.

SO, you might be safe shooting them.

BUT, DON'T DO IT THAT WAY again when developing loads! :banghead:

rc

 

[tylenol9999]

Can you make some additional rounds at a lower charge to work up to what you have now? Then start from the bottom load and check for pressure signs.

 

[243winxb]

http://www.photobucket.com/kabooom 10.3 gr. Max for a 158 lswc. From Alliant. Good luck.

 

[nixpap]

I'm going to call or e-mail the powder manufacturer and see what they say. also, buy a bullet puller (recommendations?)I should have one anyway. I'll try the 10 grainers though. At least a couple.And most important ,I DO NEED to start at the starting loads and work my way up. The correct way. Can't be lazy in this endeavour. What stinks is that the closest range that i can shoot lead and or magnums is over 1/2 an hour away. So every time I need to shoot a new load it's a big hassle.I suppose i can just load about 10 of each in my sequence and stop at the desired load and ugg,pull the rest. My goal is to have a nice suppl of plinkers (which is easy) and a very nice stash of thumpers and stick with those. To bad powder is practically impossible to find. Thanks to you all for taking the time to reply.... nixpap

Nice pics 243. Yikes!!!

 

[rcmodel]

Anybody's hammer impact bullet puller will work about the same as the rest of them.

Impact pullers are all that will work to pull lead SWC bullets.
So just pick out the color you like best.

rc

 

[nixpap]

Anybody's hammer impact bullet puller will work about the same as the rest of them.

Impact pullers are all that will work to pull lead SWC bullets.
So just pick out the color you like best.

rc

can ya get a wadcutter out? iv'e never used one.

 

[rcmodel]

Sure you can.

Any bullet with weight will come out when the law of inertia comes out to play.

The only thing an impact puller doesn't work so well on is tiny light weight bullets as used in .223, .20 cal, and .17 cal.

Not enough bullet weight for inertia to pull them easily.

rc

 

[nixpap]

cool. i have a rather nice collection that need an introduction.

 

[murf]

i settled on ten grains of bluedot for my 158 gn lswc load. chronys at 1250 fps out of my 4.625" blackhawk. kept em slow to prevent leading.

murf

 

[thump_rrr]

you should always work up your load starting 10% below the maximum load.
I find that developing a load is 1/2 the fun.

 

[jwrowland77]

Trying the 10 with max being 10.3, is still a hot load. Do the proper workup of starting with starting load! I've never used BD so I can't tell you starting load. DONT CUT STEPS! It may just save your life.

 

[GooseGestapo]

I'm not as skitish of that load as most.
I've fired several thousand rounds of that exact load through S&W K-frame revolvers.
No problems.

It is one of my "go-too" loads when I don't have Unique or #2400 on hand.

 

[243winxb]

http://stevespages.com/page8a.htm Compare the 158 gr data to the 170 gr. Very different for only a few grains in bullet weight. Different component = Different pressure.

 

[murf]

243winxb,

that steves page link shows a cci 550 primer in the data. i never use a mag primer with bluedot and want the op to understand that my load suggestion uses a cci 500 non-magnum primer.

also, to the op, you might want to work up in .2 grain increments in pistol load development. .5 grain increments is 5 percent of the load and a bit much imo.

murf

 

[mdi]

How many did you assemble? Do you have more brass and bullets? I'd just put these reloads away for now. From the other replies, I believe these loads are marginal; stout but not dangerous. With more shooting/reloading experience, you'll be able to determine if you want to shoot or disassemble these loads.

And as rcmodel mentioned, start at the starting load, no matter what your buddy tells you, what you read on a forum, or what you hear at your local gunshop or range...

 

[Sunray]

Alliant(no BD cast data on their site) says 10.2 is max for a 158 Jacketed, out of a 10 barrel for who knows why. Doubt it'd be unsafe out of any Ruger, but you're going to have an very impressive fireball.

 

[silicosys4]

If you are going to shoot them, shoot them before it gets cold.
Blue dot is one of those powders that gets quirky at lower temps. I stopped using Blue dot for that reason.

 

[herkyguy]

If no one has said it yet, at least you're shooting them out of a Ruger..... Built like a tank.

 

[243winxb]

Sp101

Tanks? http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=692143

Hondo 60- "Double Charge? Made on a Dillon 550, (no powder cop type die) with what I'm assuming was 14 gr of Tite Group under a 125 gr JHP."
The reason I assume 14 gr of Tite Group is because the load called for 7.0 gr.