Should I stick with my 25-06 or step up to a 270 for a future Mule Deer Hunt?

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I kind of agree with many of the individuals here. If you have a 25 you are happy with there certainly is no harm in diversifying calibers. a .270 with a 130 grain bullet will kill pretty much what a .25-06 will with a 100-115 grain bullet will. With recoil will not being overly burdensome. Especially with a good recoil pad installed. You will get the bonus however of jumping up to a 150, or 160 grain bullet if you decide later on that you would like a little extra oomph for heavier game should the opportunity present itself in future hunts.
Best of luck to you. Im jealous of your predicament.
 
I started out with a Mdl 70 270 Winchester in 1952. Shot mule deer, pronghorn, elk, and other unwonted critters with the 270. Dont recall the year when I got the 25-06 Rem but I used it to shoot mule deer, pronghorn and a few varmints. The 25-06 is a fine deer and pronghorn round so if you wont to get an other rifle ,take a look at the 7MM Rem Mag and 300 Win Mag for elk and long shots at deer.
 
I think it would be great to have another nice rifle

You can get a "semi-custom" rifle from E.R. Shaw for about $1000. That will include matte stainless and straight fluting. The only real downside will be the 14 month wait. :cool:

John
 
I agree. Ive shot probably over a 100 deer with 100 grain 25 cal bullets in the 257 roberts 2506 and 257wby over the years doing crop damage at ranges from 50 yards to over 500 and have yet to see one fail to kill if i did my job and put them where they belonged. Only 25 cal 100 grain bullet thats given me problems is the barnes tsx. But then they gave me fits in every weight and caliber i tried them in. bottom line is if you shot a deer with any cup and core 100 grain 25 cal bullet out of a 2506 and didnt eat that animal it was your fault not the gun or loads.
.270 is over-rated in my opinion. .25-06 will do anything that to a mule deer that a .270 can do. And my experience has been that a .270 kicks about as much as a .30-06.

I too am an Idaho guy and I happen to believe that a 100 grain bullet is plenty for mule deer. I would probably go with a heavier bullet though because I belong to the crowd of hunters who believe it is better to shoot all the way through an animal. The velocities you can get from a 100 grain bullet will make you a beast at 400 yards though. I suppose it all comes down to which bullet you can get hits with.
 
echo, echo, keep the .25/06. echo,echo.

I can't tell the difference between the 100gr and 115/120gr Nosler Partitions. Most of the deer I've shot with them have been 25-200yds. They all exit the deer on broadside shots. I've recovered them from angling shots against the hide or pelvis...
I don't even use them anymore favoring the 100 or 117gr Hornady "Interloks". Same performance at 1/3 the cost.
Not a brush buster...??? I beg your pardon! I've gotten better performance from the .25's than ANY of the so-call brush busters... But then again, I'm also a fan of the .35Rem, .30/30, and .45/70.... But if the range exceeds 150yds (gas-line row, power lines, soybean fields) out comes the .257Roberts or the .257wby.....
FWIW; the only mule deer I've ever killed was at 387yds and went bang-flop to a Nosler 85gr BallisticTip. 2" exit wound from shoulder spine hit.....And I've taken down white-tails at over 400yds with 75gr Hornady HP's.... So, the 100gr is far from "too light" for mule deer. Just use the "Right" 100gr.
FWIW; I can't tell the difference between the 117gr Sierra .257" BtSpt and the 130gr .270" BtSpt.... Neither on the range or in the woods... Either at 3,000fps will do the job if you do yours....
 
The 25-06 is a fine deer and pronghorn round so if you wont to get an other rifle ,take a look at the 7MM Rem Mag and 300 Win Mag for elk and long shots at deer

Is what I did 15 years ago, got a 7 mag as my second to my .257 Roberts thinkin' I'd get to chase elk with it. I never did, shot a half dozen deer with it, didn't kill 'em any deader than my .257 which has killed a couple dozen with less meat damage. Later got a .308 I really like. The big 7 collects dust, but I keep it just in case. :D
 
I am figuring on the fact that Mule deer are not easy to get close to; and I need to be prepared to take shots that might fall between 200 and 400 yards.

My first mule deer was taken at 30 yards. My second at 75. They're not hard to get close to, unless you believe the tv shows where overweight Billy-Bob fires away cross-canyon with his ultra mag...
 
25-06 v 270

I hunt deer with a 270 but I have to agree that the 25-06 is plenty. Get a 270, who needs an excuse to get something new? ;) However, if you are good with your 25 then maybe don't fix it is it ain't broke....
 
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I am figuring on the fact that Mule deer are not easy to get close to; and I need to be prepared to take shots that might fall between 200 and 400 yards.

My first mule deer was taken at 30 yards. My second at 75. They're not hard to get close to, unless you believe the tv shows where overweight Billy-Bob fires away cross-canyon with his ultra mag...


LMAO ! Too True !!
 
I never had any trouble killing mule deer with my .257 Roberts Imp. which is almost the ballistic equivalent of the .25-06. However, I ALWAYS used Nosler Partition bullets usually in 100 grain weight.
A friend of mine who lives in Wyoming used his .25-06 to take a cow moose but he used the 117 gr. bullets. It was a one-shot kill.
 
I am so impressed with all the feedback this thread has generated. I had two 25-06 rifles; the 25-06 is my favorite; I sold one of them; so I'm going to replace it, with another 25-06. I want to have two of them. But I have done dome research and I'm not going Sako cause I don't want CRF; a case rupture is much worse in a CRF rifle from what I've read. I'm pretty set on having my local dealer order me a Model 700 Mountain SS in 25-06; it's new for 2012. It's only 6.5 pounds. I love the M 700 action. It's by far the best action as far as production rifles go; well, I don't know; I really think Sako 75 has an awesome 3-lug design that is silky smooth. But I like the Sako 75; NOT the 85.

I'm so happy that some 100-grain guys jumped in there and took the time to write what's on your mind; this makes me feel a lot more comfortable with my Nosler 100 grain Partition choice. The velocity is 3300 fps(muzzle). But yeah I think I'm just going to go with that 700 Mountain SS; I'll kick myself in the butt if I don't get it; and then Remington will quit making it next year; they are bad about that; only making certain models for a couple years then you'll never see it again. Just like the model 700 Light Varmint Stainless Fluted; But I have one in 22-250 with a gentry brake, a shilen trigger; and the whole rifle is done in Black Cerakote(over stainless). It was made in 2003 and will shoot inside a half inch; I just hope Remington is still making good rifles. I hope they haven't compromised quality in any way.
 
Personally, I would use a Barnes Triple Shock X bullet. Since they say to go down one weight from what you would normally shoot, that would be perfect.
 
get the rifle that calls to you, and dont worry so much about case rupture. if your case ruptures, it'll be bad no matter what kind of action you've got. But I agree that a lighter rifle is good.
 
.25-06 vs .270 for mule deer? They'll likely never tell the difference. You could split the difference between the two rounds and buy a 6.5mmX.284 Norma. Cooper chambers the M52 in that round as well.

I can't really tell you what rifle to buy, but I will observe that I used to own a Sako 75 Hunter, and it was a good rifle but not as good as my Coopers are. My "go-to" center fire hunting rifle is a Cooper M52 Jackson Hunter in .280 Ackley Improved mounting a Swarovski 3-10X42. I don't really consider it to be all that heavy, but compared to a little wand of a mountain rifle I guess it is. At any rate it shoots tight little groups with most any ammo I load in the magazine, has a great trigger, comfortable well built stock, and operates more slickly than snot on a door knob. Cooper rifles in my experience usually end up being more than the sum of their parts alone, not that there are any bad parts; just that actual care is taken in mating them all together and making a product that works with the user to help you get the best results you can. In other words they are easy to shoot well.

Not just my isolated experience, I have two good friends that own Coopers (all .280's incidentally) and their rifles are both superbly accurate. I also own an M57 in .22LR and it is ridiculously accurate even with hyper velocity hunting ammo, I have yet to miss the head of a rabbit at any range I have taken a shot with that rifle (knocks on wood). Just about anyone that knows basic marksmanship principals that I have allowed to shoot either rifle has shot them both well. This leads to more of my friends ending up with Coopers, last one to shoot both of my rifles has one on order in 6.5mmX.284 Norma. I look forward to seeing what that one is like, M52 repeater with a 26" heavy bbl in a laminated varmint style stock.
 
Longrifle, I am also a 25-06 fan and that's all I hunted with for about 15 years. This thread talked about everything except hunting conditions. If you're hunting 150 pound deer and your hunting is done on blue bird days with 60 degree temperatures a 25-06 is fine. If the hunting conditions include cold 20 and 30 degree temperatures, winds at 20 to 30 mph and animals moving through tall grass, weeds and brush the 270 Winchester and 30-06 are much better choices. I still have two 25-06s but I hunt with larger calibers when conditions are tough. BW
 
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Longrifle, I am also a 25-06 fan and that's all I hunted with for about 15 years. This thread talked about everything except hunting conditions. If you're hunting 150 pound deer and your hunting is done on blue bird days with 60 degree temperatures a 25-06 is fine. If the hunting conditions include cold 20 and 30 degree temperatures, winds at 20 to 30 mph and animals moving through tall grass, weeds and brush the 270 Winchester and 30-06 are much better choices. I still have two 25-06s but I hunt with larger calibers when conditions are tough. BW

Excellent advice.
 
If I can just convince myself that that an extra pound is not a critical factor; then I'll get the Cooper Excalibur all the way; no-brainer. I figure the 7.5 pound long action cooper helps it with its accuracy(along with other things). Anyone who owns a standard Remington 700 BDL or ADL, or an older New Haven Winchester Model 70 standard rifle; Knows what a 7.5 pound rifle feels like. In reality, 7.5 pounds was the standard rifle weight for a long time; and many rifles still weigh that much. I don't feel that My Remington 700 ADL Deluxe is overly heavy; so I may go with the Cooper; besides; I've been drooling over it for a year. I can't make my purchase until September; so I have time to think it over. I really appreciate everyone's feedback.
 
.270 is too close to the .25-06 to really matter much. It should be fine for what you're looking for. If you decide to get a more powerful rifle, you should probably consider something like a 7mm Remington Magnum.

My thoughts exactly.

I don't have any hunting rifles between my .25-06 and my 8mm Rem Mag, because there is no gap to fill there WRT terminal performance. The .25-06 is great for Pronghorn, all deer species and cow elk; For bull elk and larger, I use the 8 Mag.
 
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