Should Little League coaches carry?

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So I'm watching TV (which I rarely do, because I don't own one in the house.. was at a restaurant)...

A students were going home with bruises which were inconsistent with playing baseball, and so a parent decided to sneak a camcorder into one of the games.. Well, caught the coach slapping the kids around. So the coach is now out on the street.. (good!)

But one of the parents commented that good thing he didn't have a gun, otherwise you don't know what could have happened.

Now while I'm not pro-slapping kids around (But I am pro, running laps and doing pushups for dicipline) I can't really imagine equating slapping a kid for missing a fly ball, vs. shooting him to death, so I thought the comment was rediculous..

That said, I wanted to open the question up to THR..

Do you support people who take care of kids professionally (like coaches etc..) to pack?
 
I am sure that

Dylan & Eric knew that the Columbine teachers were unarmed.
So yes!
you need a few armed responsible adults at every function
that has potential victims that are to young to legally
arm themselves.
 
I support anyone who can legally own one carrying a gun.

That being said, a parent shooting that coach would have been a bad shoot.. I think everyone here who does their homework would realize that. I don't think a good old fashioned parent-to-coach asswhuppin' would have been out of line, though.
 
Do you support people who take care of kids professionally (like coaches etc..) to pack?
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Sure,,as long as they pass The Test.

























The test
- are they breathing?
 
Sure!

Yes, they should be able to carry! But then again, I think school teachers and airline pilots should be able to carry also.

And, I'm pretty sure that little league coaches are not paid professionals...I know my Pop Warner football coach wasn't paid...

I will tell you though...first thing I would have done with that video is make a trip to the local precinct, and then to local TV statation.
 
If I trust a person enough to let them coach my kids or grandkids, I trust them enough to carry a weapon.


Now actually using that weapon in training the kids is probably excessive...:D

TC
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First of all, beating kids, unfortunately, is not limited to just team coaches. Second, lots of people beat their spouses, does that mean that nobody should own a weapon?


I don't think the evils of a few should rationalize punishing the majority.

If a person has a problem with violence and rage, then they should be be dealt with as an individual. It's not necessarily a problem with everyone who falls into the same classification as them (ie, sex, job, hobbies, race, location, etc).
 
I think everyone breathing on God's green Earth should carry a firearm. When responsible people see someone misusing their weapon they should then ban the person doing so from breathing.
 
Hal,

So what you are trying to say is.. politicians fail "The Test"? :D

My Wrestling coach use to beat us up all the time... (oh wait, that was the idea behind the sport)..

I'm still all for coaches and teachers packin' heat.. If I'm going to trust the mind of my child in their hands, their safety and security should be the same as well..
 
I think that it's more important that the people who have control over my kids have some sort of mental/emotional evaluation than whether they have a gun or not. That evaluation should be made by the parent (and not just once, but from time to time) as well as the organization that put that person in control.

That being said, I'd rather that the people responsible for my child have the ability to defend them as well as teach them.
 
think that it's more important that the people who have control over my kids have some sort of mental/emotional evaluation than whether they have a gun or not. That evaluation should be made by the parent (and not just once, but from time to time) as well as the organization that put that person in control.
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Who designs the mental/emotional evaluation? The best trained folks in the world at this type of evaluation let folks into society all the time who rob, rape, and murder. Conclusion: we don't know enough to design adequate evaluations. Thinking we do is an illusion and a dangerous one. It gives you a false sense of security...but he passed the evaluation!

Ask the FBI and CIA just how difficult it is to evaluate everyone absolutely accurately. To heck with evaluation, I'll settle for watching like a hawk.
 
OR...

If more of the parents had more interest in their kids...
Would have been enough parents there to insure the situation never arose.

Packin ? Why not.? Bad behaviour seperate thing and needs to be addressed seperately.

Sam
 
My 10 year old son is very active in baseball and we have games/practices 3 times a week. While I am not a coach, I do carry about 95% of the time while attending. This is probably one of the few places I carry where I am VERY careful to be concealed as best as possible. Usually if I am casually carrying, I am not overly careful about concealment but with all the high strung socc...uh, I mean, baseball moms around, I don't want one of them to make a scene.
 
Now while I'm not pro-slapping kids around (But I am pro, running laps and doing pushups for dicipline) I can't really imagine equating slapping a kid for missing a fly ball, vs. shooting him to death, so I thought the comment was rediculous..
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It is a rediculous comment, but not really surprising.

A bit over a year ago I ran into a guy I know who I hadn't seen in a while. We were talking and he knew of a job that was exactly what I need/needed (mental health work with kids). If he had sent me to the organization I would have had the job (he is well known to them, and does just about all their fundraising work for them so he basically funds them). Then the topic changed and he started trying to talk me into moving to New York. Since he is extremely right-wing on everything else I figured he probably wasn't an anti so I told him exactly why I will never move to New York (the gun laws in case you can't figure it out). He said, "you own guns?!", with a very concerned tone of voice. I said yes and he told me that the only way he'd let me get that job was if I either got rid of them (and somehow proved to him that I no longer owned any guns) or if I let a third party have complete control over them and I didn't so much as touch them while I worked for this organization. When I objected he said "I don't know you that well. I don't want you getting mad at the kids and shooting them". :fire: This was from a guy who sort of knows me (and should know that I am pretty harmless). I am someone who never so much as raised a hand at anyone in anger in my life and about the only thing that might get me to do so is someone who hurts children. Also, I'm in MD so no one was talking about carrying guns and working with children, only owning guns and working with children.

It may be surprising how widespread these kinds of mindsets are but I am no longer surprised when I hear them (only disheartened).

BTW- Since then I have not even said "hi" to the guy who blackballed me from any jobs with kids he has any influence over (and who thinks I shouldn't be allowed other jobs with kids) so long as I am a gun owner. He just thinks I'm a meanspirited extremist who is holding his views against him (sounds like a bit of projection to me).
 
Guys, it's not really about whether a little league coach should be allowed to carry.

The case at hand is about an abusive person with temper problems. That's not a good thing, and, from what I've seen, is far more indicative of the "anti" mentality than of the typical law abiding firearms owner.

Good thing the guy didn't have a gun. He might have used it. Conversely, if "one of us" had been coaching, hey, the kids woulda been coached.
 
Well Chaim, I will have to say I don't know you very well, but from what I have read in your post's, this guy is a total Idiot and you won't be missing much from him by not talking to him;)
 
The real issue is whether folks who are responsible should be allowed to carry? If a person whether (s)he is a teacher, coach, janitor, clerk, driver or executive, is responsible and demonstrates proficiency and safety with a firearm, why not issue a CCW? If on the other hand the individual is irresponsible (beats up people who cross them - BTW, I once attended a Civil Service Hearing where one fellow appealed the department's decision not to hire him because of his violent propensities. The background investigator said "no hire" and the Civil Service commission upheld the department's decision), then absolutely not.

Applied to the issue of a "coach," it depends on the person, not the occupation.
 
Guns at little league ball games? Nah. Bad idea. Scenario - Coach X carries at the game. Coach Y doesn't like guns. Coach X loses control over a blown call by Umpire Z in the bottom of the 9th and shoots umpire after heated debat all the way to the parking lot after the game. Result? Little league canceled for rest of year and kids end up the losers.
 
Whaaatttt??? Scenario #2. Kid disses another at school, at that night’s game little thug shows up with dad’s Glock & four spare mags. Both coaches killed, two umpires, three pregnant moms, five sisters and eight baseball players. Little league is canceled. Happens the following year at the basketball game.

What is the best defense, after your brain, for stopping someone who is indiscriminately shooting people? That’s right, a gun. Gun-free zones are nothing more than feel-good killing zones for criminals who don’t give a rat’s bottom about laws or your kids.
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I used to coach women's soccer at a high school. I always felt a bit uneasy when we went on road trips because I had no firearm. I was responsible for 23 girls. I did have a walking stick that I carried to all the away games. Parents used to ask me why I never had it at home games. As someone stated, there needs to be a few responsible armed people at every sporting event.
 
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