R12GS, I repect your first hand knowledge. FYI I have a Kimber, and recently added the XSE just because everyone needs at least one original. My brother and I have fired several thousand rounds through his loaded SA. I have a HUGE hankering for a DW bobtail and unlike the GSR most reviews and gun threads are overwelmingly positive. I did not say that I would not give one a chance, but not at the price point they are at. Again, my confidence is not high enough. In this thread alone there have been several negative comments regarding the GSR. I think if you took a poll regarding preference and listed Colt, SA, Kimber, DW, and GSR , you would find the GSR to rank at the bottom. I have read threads from people with (firsthand knowledge) on the High Point 9mm, and they see no need for a Glock, XD, or the like. Great for them! It does not make the Highpoint right for everyone. Your FH knowledge may be biased towards your personal taste. I could personally taste several different wines, and pick the mad dog 20/20 over the top shelf variety. That does not make my decision hold merit! Now would you really like me to give you my subatomic light particle acceleration theory?