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[oppie]

I bought a P6 from AIM last year. The gun is mechanically excellent. However, I was disappointed in the cosmetic condition of the gun. I paid $10 for a best of 10. I received the gun in a broken Sig pistol box. the gun literally had been bouncing around the blue Sig box and had blue scuffs all over it. My FFL was surprised at how poorly the gun was shipped. The stock grips were chewed-up...it appeared literally chewed-up. No holster.

When I called AIM, they said they was exchange it, but I would be scraping the bottom of the barrel...LOL. They had only a handful left.

Now, with that all said, the gun cleaned-up very nice. I had some Pachmyr signature grips that I was planning to put on it anyway. shoots like a dream.
After seeing some of the other recent P6 purchases, I admit to being somewhat jealous.

For the price you cannot be this gun. My cousin just bought a Sig certified 226 and paid nearly $200 more....

 

[Zak Smith]

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[.45&TKD]

Zak,

When and where (and how much $) did you buy yours?

I notice that yours has the import mark on the slide, not the frame.

 

[Detachment Charlie]

Here's mine from CDNN -- and it's great!

 

[Zak Smith]

AIM surplus.

 

[MechAg94]

Anyone tried any good concealed carry holsters yet?

 

[AK103K]

My P6's fit in my VMII and Blade Tech IWB P226/P220 holsters just fine.

 

[skinewmexico]

I got mine from CDNN, it didn't even have wear marks inside the slide. Just a few on the barrel hood.

 

[Dave Markowitz]

My P225 is my favorite carry gun. It's also taken over bedside duty in my Minivault. Here's a pic next to my High Power:

 

[Greek]

Lou Alessi made me a fine holster for my 225.

 

[Chem Geek]

<drool> Must....get....P6!

 

[Deputy25]

I purchased a pair of P6s from AIM a couple weeks back, and was very pleased with the condition of them. Very little holster wear, flawless function with any ammo, and excellent accuracy. One of my friends at work decided to buy, and AIM was backordered. We found out that Dan's is practically in our backyard. Talked to Dan on the phone (very nice guy), and he told us to come on out to the warehouse and we could look through his stock and pick one out. After a tutorial on how to open a SIG box, we dug into several stacks of P6s. My buddy was shocked at the great condition of them, and ended up buying two (one for his Dad). While aiding him in his search, I came across a beautiful P6 marked 2/82. Must have sat in a desk for the last 25 years. For 259.00 + PA sales tax, I felt obligated to take it home. As my daughter took one of my pair from AIM, I now have a matched set again. Can't beat the deals on these P6s. Where can you buy a well made, accurate service handgun for 259.00? Dan's Ammo still has a nice big box full of P6 pistols in fine condition (I know, I rummaged through a lot of them). Thanks again to Dan for letting us visit his warehouse and hand-select our pistols .

 

[Zak Smith]

Sent one off to Tripp. It cleaned up real well

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[skinewmexico]

Wow, looks great.

 

[Bullet Bob]

If you happen to live in the Triad area of North Carolina, The Gun Rack in Kernersville has them for $299.00 with the box, extra magazine, test target, and manual - in German.

 

[DevilDog0402]

I want one. The wife is not gonna be happy!


Zak - that looks great! I was thinking if I got one w/ a rough finish I would do the same thing.

 

[Storm]

It's a great gun, especially for the money. I paid $359 for mine locally. All I ahve done os change the grip screws with Hogue hex screws as the stock screws always seem to rust. The gun shoots extremely well.

 

[azhunter12]

Anyone get one from Centerfire? I've been thinking of getting one with my saiga order soon. I just can't decide weather to get a Taurus 24/7 pro or a p6.

 

[Bullzaye]

Posted by: ccmdfd

In terms of size, the 228 is dang close to the exact dimensions of the 225, and holds over twice the round count. Thus it gets the nod for ccw work more often for me.

This is not quite true. Yes, the dimensions of the P228 are very close to the P225/P6, however the P228 holds 13+1 rounds while the P225/P6 holds 8+1 rounds. Not even twice the round count, closer to a 50% increase. Still, in terms of rounds on tap versus overall dimensions, the P228 definitely gets the nod. If only P228s were available for $250-$300!

 

[rellascout]

This is not quite true. Yes, the dimensions of the P228 are very close to the P225/P6, however the P228 holds 13+1 rounds while the P225/P6 holds 8+1 rounds. Not even twice the round count, closer to a 50% increase. Still, in terms of rounds on tap versus overall dimensions, the P228 definitely gets the nod. If only P228s were available for $250-$300!

Yes it is. I carry a P228 with a 17 in the mag and one in the chamber. With the new Mecgar 18 rounders for the P226 it will soon be 18 +1.

P225s are not available for $300 either. The inferior P6 is everywhere at that price but you are mistaken if you think the P225 and the P6 are the same gun. People everywhere are perpetuating this myth. The P6 is a European Police gun that that made to a particular spec for that contract. The P225 is a different gun. There are commonalities but they are not the same in terms of all parts, fit, finish or function.

A true P225 used will run you $500+ right on par with a P228.

The part that really bothers me about this mistake is that some people are buying P6s and using them for self defense guns with hollowpoint ammo that it was never intended to use.

 

[azhunter12]

How is the p6 inferior to the p225? The p6 is just made in w. Germany.

 

[rellascout]

As general rule I love W. German made Sigs more than anything currently in production. Sig has lost its touch since moving its production to Exeter IHMO. The new P220 external extractor even has issues so the fit to their most recent known issue is not even a real fix but that is for another thread. The W. German origin and its rock bottom price are the biggest pluses to the P6 IMHO.

Well for starters the P6 was made in W. German to fire 115Gr ball ammo. It was not made to reliability feed US hollow points. Earlier models will not feed reliably and since these are trade ins the chance of getting a parts gun is much higher so date codes do not tell the whole story.

Now I know there will be thousands of new P6 owners saying they feed just fine but why use something for a defense gun that was not designed for that purpose.

Second the fit and finish of these guns are not a shining example of what Sig can do. They are not up to the level of the Commercial P225.

Third the trigger spring is 3-4 pounds heavier in both DA/SA modes Yes people replace the recoil springs and other springs and that helps. The problem I see is that you end up with lighter but certainly not smoother trigger, see point #2. Most P6s I have held and shot needed a trigger job to get to real Sig standards.

Fourth the Hammer is useless with its notch design. This was requested so the German police armorer would know if someone dropped their gun.

To me they are like a BMW with cloth seats.

 

[AK103K]

For all intents and purposes, the P6 is a P225. Yes, its a contract gun, just like some police departments here had contract guns with S&W and Colt, so what? You usually got a better deal on a well maintained, and often ratty looking gun with any you bought.

This is like complaining about a Remington 1100 "Sportsman" vs an higher end 1100. Mostly a matter of opinion with a little gun snobbery added.

I've seen P6's at Gander Mountain that appeared new, for $300 on sale, and worn out P228's that had been through the wars, for $750! In that case, the P6 was obviously the much better deal.

As for the hollow point issue, I have two P6's with early and late dates, and both have fed anything I have put through them without issue, including +P+ hollow points. Not saying the older gun wasnt updated at some later point by the armorer, but hollow points have never been an issue for me. In all the reports I've seen posted on the web, it doesnt seem to be a big issue with most of them either.

 

[rellascout]

I am sorry you are right. JHP not an issue.

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=367838

Gander Mountain is a horrible example of pricing. They are known to be overpriced and one of the worst places to purchase guns. Do a search and you will start to shop somewhere else. They try to charge $950+ for new Sigs that I can buy all day long at $750.

Look around its not just me. You can sell a real Sig 225 for $550 in about 5 hours on the Sig forum. Try selling a P6 for more than $300. You can call it snobbery if you want I call it the current market. IT seems odd that a Sig fan would debate that there is a difference between the P6 and a P225. The difference is well know and accepted by most Sig enthusiast. You might not agree with the price tag placed on the difference but to argue that there is not difference demonstrates a lack of know IMHO.

 

[Bullzaye]

rellascout posted:
Yes it is. I carry a P228 with a 17 in the mag and one in the chamber. With the new Mecgar 18 rounders for the P226 it will soon be 18 +1.

Well, if you're not going to use the actual original mag for comparison, then talking about the dimensions of the gun is pointless. In my foolishness, I presumed that we were going to be speaking of the OEM mags only, not refer to whatever lenth monstrosity of a mag could be slammed into it. Obviously a Sig P228 with a 15 or more round mag sticking out of the butt no longer has the same dimensions as the pistol with it's original 13 round mag. That being said, I can still put a 10 round mag into the P6, and the Sig P228 still does not enjoy a mag capacity that is twice that of the P6/P225, so it is still an incorrect statement.

Your notion of the worthlessness of the P6 pistol in using hollowpoints is slightly misguided. Any pistol being used for self-defense needs to have many rounds (some recommend 100, some up to 500) of a particular type put throught the pistol before it can be declared reliable. Since I've already put several hundred hollowpoints through both of my P6s without the slightest problem, I can assure you that your claim of their unreliability is suspect, at best.

Of course you wouldn't be able to get over $300 for a P6 right now, when they're still easily available at many shops for that price! To even think otherwise is foolish. But will that still be the case when the P6s are all sold out? I suspect that their price will increase, not to the equal of a commercial model that's still in good shape, of course. All you have to do is look at what has happened with the H&K P7s, or the Makarovs, or other such arms. They're offered for a decent price for awhile, then when they're finally all gone...the prices begin to rise.

While I do also own an unfired in the box P225 with night sights, and a P228 which I occasionally shoot, I still enjoy shooting my P6s quite a bit, thank you very much. If you choose not to buy a P6, that's great. By all means, don't. Leaves more for the rest of us who know a good buy when we see one.