Sig 225 Re-release

[Plan2Live]

I ran across this posting on Osage County website. They claim Sig will be re-releasing the P225 later this year.http://www.osagecountyguns.com/blog/news/sig-sauer/sig-p225-being-re-released/ Thought I would pass the link along.

I've never held or fired a 225 but the specs of the old 225 seem to suggest the 225 is basically a single stack 229. I own and often carry a 239. It is challenging to find vertical draw outside the waistband holsters for the 239 (shame on you Galco!) but aside from that, I'm not sure what niche the 225 fills that the 239 doesn't already have covered. I think I would have preferred a slight redesign of the 239 frame offering a squared off trigger guard rather than a 225 re-release, but hey, no one at Sig asked me.

 

[Thermactor]

I love that gun. I bet it will be popular in ban states where magazine capacity is limited.
The P225 is a 9mm P220 with a 3.9" barrel.
I can't wait to compare the fit and finish of the new model gun to the old German P6.
I object to the fact that they want to modify the trigger guard. Bring it back as it was.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

It is coming back... and it looks better than it used to. Here's a link to an article, and the photo is an image from that link. The article talks about some of the difference, which include a milled stainless slide (as opposed to folded carbon steel slide of the original), and other changes that should give it a longer service life than the original P225/P6. The article says this addition breathes new life into older, as parts were getting low... new production means a new inventory of supplies for the older P225s and P6s.

The link: http://www.guns.com/2015/06/04/sigs-bringing-back-the-p225-for-2015/

 

[PabloJ]

The dimensions and weight make this gun very shootable. Let us hope it does not have trigger pull of a typical P6.

 

[Thermactor]

I for one hope that this means that E2 grips will be forthcoming that us P6 owners can retrofit our guns with.
Oh, and might this mean a 22LR kit too?

 

[Rinspeed]

I hope they sell a ton of them. As Pablo mentioned the trigger pull of the older 225/P6 can be a little tough for me as well. Not sure what it is but I really struggle with it compared to most of the other classic Sigs.

 

[golden]

One of my favorite sig pistols

I really like the 225. I bought a German police P-6 trade in an liked it very much except that it would not feed any type of hollowpoint ammo. I found I could get it to shoot the COR BON Powerball ammo and my wife used it as a house gun that way.

When I found a 225 (not a P-6) in excellent condition, I bought it on the spot. It is one of my favorite range guns and I would use it for SD if I had to. The grip is excellent and fits my average size hand perfectly. I used to have a 226 and 229 for duty guns, but they never fit my hand as well as the 225.
Unlike the P-6, the 225 feeds everything.

Jim

 

[weregunner]

I want a new one to go with my old one.

 

[zoom6zoom]

Jeff from SIG posted over at SigForum:
the first release will be stainless slide / aluminum frame. All stainless version to follow. The slide contour is identical to the legacy P225. The frame contour deviates from the 225 in that the trigger guard shape mirrors the 228. We're excited about it. Look for a July-August release.

 

[Rubber_Duck]

This is great news. I much prefer the P225 (and the P6 for that matter) over the P239 for a single-stack 9mm SIG. I hope quality P225 mags come down in price.

 

[JDR]

I've always really loved my P225, it will be good to see what the new version looks like.

 

[Plan2Live]

If the dimensions are true to the old 225 then the 225 gives you .30 of an inch longer barrel than the 239 at a cost of .50 inch longer in overall length. I'm not being flip or controversial, trolling or a fanboy, just asking a serious question. What niche does the 225 fill that the 239 doesn't already have covered, except access to more holster options?

 

[WVsig]

I hope they sell a ton of them. As Pablo mentioned the trigger pull of the older 225/P6 can be a little tough for me as well. Not sure what it is but I really struggle with it compared to most of the other classic Sigs.

A mainspring from Wolff can correct this. You can go as low as 19lbs on most guns. You can also get a 24lb spring from Sig which is lower than your current mainspring. Changing it out is pretty easy if you know how to detail strip the gun. There are videos on youtube as well. It is sort of tricky to get it reassembled and a vise or a second set of hands is helpful.

 

[bannockburn]

Neat! I would be very interested in a new P225!

 

[Quercusalba]

Sweet, I was just looking at a friend's 225 and thinking that sig wouldn't make these again. Glad to hear that I was wrong.

 

[hAkron]

I love my P-6. I have average sized hands and a P-229/P-226 feel bulky to me.

 

[mgmorden]

I've got a P6 myself. All in all it's not a bad gun but I'm not that big of a fan of it. For a single stack the grip is very wide - as wide as most double-stack guns. The trigger is also very heavy in DA but I haven't ever bothered to swap out the spring (I may do that soon).

Overall if I'm going to carry something of that size I'd just as soon pick something where I get twice as many rounds.

Even in capacity limited states I'd rather have a double-stack gun with 10-round magazines as you get an extra round and with a larger magazine well reloads are faster versus a thin single-stack mag.

I do think it's a good thing that they're coming back though as more sources for parts is always good.

 

[sigarms228]

Interesting!

I imagine it will weigh a little more than the carbon steel folded slide P225 but probably not much more, maybe an ounce.

The SIG M11-1A seems to be a big seller for SIG so not surprising they are going to bring back the P225.

 

[1KPerDay]

Re shaped trigger guard?? Not interested. The 225's trigger guard is the first thing I lusted after.

 

[sappyg]

Woohoo! A new production 225 is going to be an instant hit. Hopefully I'll be able to find one when they come out. Been looking for a 9mm 239 for 2 years with no luck. They are all in 40 S&W.

 

[taliv]

wow! the 225 was the first pistol i ever bought. i really enjoyed it, but holy crap that trigger pull was about 2 feet long. compared to my 1911, i'd say it's like pulling a bucket full of water out of a 40' deep well with a cotton rope. it's hard to do with just one hand.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I have a very nice P228. Just curious: what does the P225 do that the P228 (or subsequent M11A1) doesn't do better?

With the heavier forged slide, I would expect the weight of the P225 to be very similar to the P228/M11A1, and length is about the same. The single stack grip of the P225/P6 isn't really that narrow, and might be .2" of an inch narrower than the P228/M11A1, but gives up 5-7 rounds depending on the magazine used.

I'm sure SIG did their market research before deciding to re-introduce the P225... but I don't see the attraction (unless they plan to sell it for a LOT less than the M11A1 -- which is a bit pricey for my taste.}

.

 

[Thermactor]

Interesting!

I imagine it will weigh a little more than the carbon steel folded slide P225 but probably not much more, maybe an ounce.

The SIG M11-1A seems to be a big seller for SIG so not surprising they are going to bring back the P225.

Comparing the P6 and M11A1 with E2 grips side to side, it seems like the M11 is a perfected P6. They are extremely similar dimensionally, feel about the same on the hands, but the M11 has the night sights, short reset trigger, and beefed up and coated internals. Not to mention the double stack magazines and the ability to take P226 mags, which, IME, a 14 rd Mec-Gar 40 s&w can take 21 9mm rounds and feed them fine in the M11.

But the P6 is a wonderful pistol in its own right and it deserves all the honor it can.


Fun fact: A P229 22LR conversion slide kit (indicated for the M11A1) will fit on a P6. It takes a tiny bit of finagling to get the takedown lever to close. Once fitted, it racks just fine. Spacing between ramps looks just like it does on the M11. No magazines are available, so I can't comment on how it runs, BUT... it will fire manually chambered rounds just fine.

The M11A1 9mm slide won't fit on a P6. Something interferes with the takedown lever block. I won't bother investigating further on that account.

Food for thought

 

[sigarms228]

Just my opinion but I don't expect SIG to sell near as many P225s as M11-1A and I personally don't have any interest in the P225 myself being a P228 owner.

I find it really perplexing that the word is that SIG plans to make an all stainless steel P225 as that would be pretty dang heavy. I can't see the P225 being purchased as a range gun and the extra weight with all stainless steel would make it a real chunk for CCW.

 

[BlindJustice]

Which Niche? Same. for P225/P6 and P239

A woman friend had her brother give her one of
the imported P225 ex-german Police. It had
or has very little wear and a great price when
they did hit the USA market some 5-6? years ago.

SIg handgun line, has all kinds of overlapping
niches.

R-