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I like sigs. Dont try and talk me out of it! :)
I think im going to get a 239 .40
Anybody tried the SAS?
I havent had a chance to try the dak trigger, but im wary because i like my DA 229 so much.
One weird thing, the sig website does not list the weight of the 239
anyone know?
Thanks
 
The SIG catalog lists both the standard P239 and the P239 SAS as weighing 29.5 ounces with magazine. My P239 two-tone 9mm is absolutely incredible!
 
I wouldn't try to talk you out of picking up a P239. I've bought and sold a lot of pistols in the last year, but the P239 will be the last semi-automatic I have left once I get around to putting my S&W M&P9c up for sale on the boards. The Sig fits my hand great, shoots very accurately, and has been nothing but reliable. I don't have any experience with the SAS specifically, but the P239 in .40S&W is a very soft shooter due to the added weight of the aluminum frame. I think the grips would be too big for my small hands since the stock plastic grips suit me very well. Buy it and don't look back.
 
I've got the 239 SAS. I love it. It'll run on anything I feed it, never had a single problem with it, and it's accurate. The trigger pull is long, smooth, and breaks like glass. Although I shoot better with SAO, I like having the DAK trigger for carry. I like having heavier guns and it manages the recoil nicely.

The only downside I can think of: Even though it's one of the smallest pistols SIG makes, they're still very large. The P239 has nearly the same dimensions of a Glock 23, is heavier (not a bad thing in my book), and has less capacity.
 
No one is more fanatic than the recently converted (and that would be me).

Ooooohhhh more SIG! More, more, more, more!!!!!! :D

Durn it, now I want to go to the range again!
 
I've had a 239 in 40 since about 1996. Its outstanding and its surprisingly easy to shoot accurately in 40 S&W. Further, it has always been reliable. No doubt about it, its a holster gun, but its easy to conceal and carry. I would not get rid of it for an SAS even if it was an even trade.
 
The Sig Sauer P-239 is really the only SIGARMS I wouldn't mind owning. I seriously thought about ordering one after my Sig Sauer pistol armorer class, but the LE pricing offered wasn't exactly a bargain from my perspective. Perhaps if I didn't already own a number of good quality, reliable compact pistols chambered in both 9mm & .40 S&W it might be different. Maybe.

Personally, I tend to prefer the traditional double action in the Sig line to their DAK, which they describe as an Enhanced Double Action Only trigger function.

The DAK trigger action, like any other, really ought to be experienced in order to form a reasonably informed opinion.

Basically, the primary trigger stroke of the Enhanced Double Action Only (DAK) requires approx. 6.6 pounds of pressure to fire the trigger, and it's the 'full length' trigger stroke of the two ... and the intermediate trigger stroke requires a partial reset of the trigger, and a heavier (approx 8.3 pounds) amount of pressure to fire the pistol.

Granted, the primary trigger stroke actually tends to 'feel' lighter to many folks because of the excellent geometry of the design ... but it's long, too.

When I asked the armorer instructor at my Sig Sauer pistol armorer's class why the shorter reset trigger stroke was heavier (since that's not generally the way of it in many TDA pistols) his answer was that it was the determination of Sig Sauer that it was 'safer' to have the shorter trigger stroke require more effort on the part of the user/shooter. Remember, even though these pistols are sold in the commercial market, much of their intended market is still in military & LE contracts. Safety is a marketable attribute.

I tend to agree that the P-239 has a somewhat bulky, moderately thick (for it's overall size) grip profile. Comfortable, depending on the size of your hand, but a bit thick nonetheless. I prefer my 3913/4040 when it comes to overall grip size & thickness, even with the thicker Hogue grips on the 3913/4040. That's just a personal preference, though, and each person can decide for themselves what they prefer.

Another thing to consider is the placement of the slide stop lever on the Sig Sauer pistols, especially the compact P-239. Depending on the grip of the shooter, the overall size/shape of the lever and its rearward position may create the potential for it to be unintentionally engaged by the occasional shooter. I had a fellow who had previously carried a P-229 (if I remember right) as an issued weapon without any problem. However, the combination of the smaller frame (P-239 chambered in .40 S&W), his hand size and his grip style seemed to create a condition where he was unintentionally preventing the slide stop lever from rising and locking the slide back when the magazine was empty. In this instance it seemed a 'correction' of the shooter was required instead of the pistol itself. ;)

It's mostly a mental coin-toss regarding the choice of caliber, and I'd probably go with 9mm, myself. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the .40 S&W cartridge. I own an equal number of pistols chambered in 9mm and .40 S&W (4 each), with some of them sort of 'paired' when it comes to overall size of the platform in the two calibers ... a G26/27 and a 3913/4040. I simply like the 9mm models a bit more for my needs than the .40 S&W models ... not that I'm about to get rid of any of them, mind you. ;)
 
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Who Needs An Sas?

The P239 in .40 I have is one of the best shooting .40's I own. Recoil from the .40 is usually sharp and hurts your hand. Not so with the P239.

As far as the SAS it is a nice pistol but what does it do that the P239 doesn't already do? I had one and sold it since the reg P239 was a great carry gun with nothing to snag upon drawing from under a coat etc.

If you've got a P239 you have the best idea from SIG in a long time.
 
great responses!
So it seems the SAS is an answer to a question no-one asked, so I think I'll save the dough and get what im used to. 239 two tone here I come! :)
 
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So it seems the SAS is an answer to a question no-one asked

I don't know if I'd go quite that far. As the instructor casually mentioned in the armorer's class, the regular (original) DAO trigger used in Sig Sauer pistols is proof that even Sig Sauer can make a terrible trigger. ;)

The DAK is referred to as an enhanced DAO trigger function, and SIGARMS is justifiably proud of it for a common defensive/service pistol.

Lots of folks tend to like it, and that's fine. I don't, though.

Personally, I've always appreciated either a properly produced 1911-style single action, or a well designed traditional double action (DA/SA). I've never really used a DAO-type pistol which I felt was superior for my needs to either a good 1911-style SA or a TDA, although the Glock's unique constant double action trigger function is something to which I've found it relatively easy to adapt.

Different strokes (literally) for different folks.;)

I liked the new short reset trigger option (different sear & sear spring) when I handled a pistol in which it had been installed, although I wish that in addition to having made the trigger reset mechanically shorter, SIGARMS had also found a way to make the reset feel a bit more 'positive', meaning a brisker, faster reset. Perhaps having the wire-type trigger spring located outside the frame and off to one side tends to limit the extent of the 'liveliness' of the trigger response, to some degree.

BTW, I checked the armorer's manual for an answer to your original weight question, and it lists the following technical specification info for the P239:

Weight w/o magazines - 9mm/25.2 oz; .357SIG & .40 S&W/27.4 oz
Weight empty magazine - 9mm/2.3 oz; .357SIG & .40 S&W/2.4 oz
 
thanks for the data, fastbolt.
if i can find a DAK in a local shop i'll check it out. otherwise i think i'll stick with DA.
Thanks again for all the input!
 
Personally I would go with 9mm - I have found smallish pistols with smallish grips in hot calibers to be unpleasant for extended shooting. The 239 in 9mm is very sweet to shoot and I have plenty of confidence in the round. Naturally if you don't, get the .40.
 
If I were in the market for another P239, I'd overlook the SAS model as well. First of all, the wood grips would be too thick so I would have no use for them, plus that's an added expense. Secondly, I like night sights front and rear so I'd have to change out the rear sight. Third, I (personally) prefer the all black look of the stock P239. I've shot the DAK models quite a bit as well and really do like the trigger system, so I definitely can't hold that against the SAS models.
 
The Sig 239 is a quality gun. Though I'm not sure why I own one. It is quite heavy and bulky considering its modest magazine capacity.

As with all my Sigs, it shoots well and is reliable.
 
I won't try to talk you out of buying one. I would like one too. Very sweet guns. I'm not real fond of the high bore axis on Sigs, but nice anyway.
 
I have had a 9mm P239 in DA/SA since 1996 or so. It is my all around favorite gun (Except maybe a P220!) Although yes, it does not have as many in the mag as a doublestack of the same general size. It is heavier than many polymer products. But personally I like the thin grip profile, the heavy durable metal frame that soaks up recoil, the way the trigger feels, and the look of the weapon.
I also prefer the Sig action and safety system built around the decocker and the intermediate sear detent that means you can carry with a round chambered, no external safety to worry about, no need to cock hammer, just draw and shoot, and it won't fire even if dropped on the hammer.
The fact is that in 10+ years it has never failed me in any way shape or form, not once... I stake my life on one nearly every day. If I had to sell all my guns for some reason this one would be the last to go. (The P220 would be second to last)
The factory grip panels are somewhat less appealing to me in terms of grip; a set of Hogue finger-groove grips are worth the investment.
 
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