Sig or beretta?

[gutterman]

Based on ergonomics-quality -value and price--what would you choose between the Beretta 96 and the Sig 2022 in 40 SW?

 

[1KPerDay]

SIG purely because I don't like the beretta safety location/ operation.

 

[JTQ]

I prefer Beretta ergos, but the Beretta 96 has a reputation as having a short life-span as a .40S&W launcher compared to its' 9mm brother.

The 96A1 has a buffer designed to improve life span of the gun.

 

[REJones]

I'd choose the SIG Pro in 40 over the Beretta 96. I think the ergonomics favor the SIG, and the polymer SIG is probably a better value. The SIG Pro remains about the best value in the SIG lineup, actually.

I've heard the same thing about the Beretta 96's durability issues, but I'll freely admit that I don't have any evidence to back that up

 

[igotta40]

The Beretta has alloy frame, the Sig is polymer, and shorter barrel, so, two different animals. Unless you are considering the compact 96. The Sig is significantly less expensive ($399). If $$$ isn't an issue, I'd take the Beretta, but in stainless steel.

 

[kvtcomdo]

Sig; always.

Agree with not liking the position of the safety on Beretta as well.

 

[W.E.G.]

Get both.

Put 1000 rounds through each.

Sell the one you like the least.

 

[bannockburn]

As much as I like most other Beretta pistols, SIG design ergonomics just work better for me.

 

[justin22885]

id choose neither, as far as metal framed pistols go you wont find better quality for the price than a CZ75, and for polymers theres a heck of a lot better out there than the sig

 

[Plan2Live]

and for polymers theres a heck of a lot better out there than the sig

Please list those other better options, keeping in mind this thread is comparing one hammer fired DA/SA to another hammer fired DA/SA, which polymer framed DA/SA hammer fired pistol is a better option over Sig?

 

[justin22885]

the 2022 is going to have a lot of muzzle flip

 

[Plan2Live]

the 2022 is going to have a lot of muzzle flip

Why?

So the list of better options in polymer framed, DA/SA, hammer fired pistols is.........?

 

[justin22885]

Why?

So the list of better options in polymer framed, DA/SA, hammer fired pistols is.........?

hammer fired pistols usually have a high bore axis, sigs are generally higher bore axis than most others, plus the light weight of the polymer and the weight and energy of .40S&W.. in my experience all hammer fired polymer pistols are prone to having noticeably more muzzle flip than steel pistols, or polymers with strikers

but if i had to choose a hammer fired polymer gun id probably go with the CZ P-07/P-09, the slide-in-frame design leads to a lower than average bore axis amongst hammer fired pistols.. EAA has a nice polymer hammer fired pistol as well that i like a lot

 

[Robbins290]

I would go sig. Anyday. Like other people posted. The decocker is in a very bad spot. I had my engage while doing drills. I did it soo many times i ended up replacing it with a p226. I have no doubts on the sp2022's. Pretty close to a 226 and a third of the cost

 

[Plan2Live]

or polymers with strikers

Thank you.

I always love threads that start out "which is better A or B" and someone insists on inserting "G" either by name or inference.

 

[tarosean]

Given those two choices Id take the Beretta.
After owning a 2022 not a fan at all. Stick with the 226 if you want a Sig.
Never malfunctioned, just felt cheap, odd and blah.

 

[justin22885]

Thank you.

I always love threads that start out "which is better A or B" and someone insists on inserting "G" either by name or inference.

you asked me what i thought was better, dont ask if youre just going to complain about any answer you receive.

also, if i was going to get a polymer sig it would be the 320, at least with that you can change frames, go from a full size pistol to a compact and not even need an FFL to buy new frames to do so since the serialed component is just a small metal insert containing the trigger pack and rails

 

[Zaydok Allen]

I like both but I guess in that particular choice, I'd take the Beretta.

 

[Plan2Live]

you asked me what i thought was better, dont ask if youre just going to complain about any answer you receive.

In a DA/SA
discussion you said there were better polymer options. I asked what those are. You went to muzzle flip. I pressed, you went bore access and striker fired. I'm left wondering how that relates to a DA/SA "A" or "B" discussion. Paraphrased, why go there?

 

[cslinger]

In .40 caliber the SIG. It will just be the more robust gun being polymer and running on steel inserts.

Beretta 96s are not known for their durability and I am not sure the A1 addressed this.

In 9mm I like the Beretta better.

I like both calibers so there is that too.

 

[sigarms228]

Both are terrific guns. My recommendation try them both out if you can and then make a choice. If you can't then get the one that appeals most to you personally.

I have the SP2022 in 9MM and it is one SWEET pistol. I have SIG P226/P228/P229 and HK P30LS and the SP2022 is right there with them or exceeding as far as performance, trigger, accuracy, reliability, and durability. Also one soft shooting pistol. Mine has been 100 percent through over 4000 rounds now. IMO as good as any poly hammer fired combat pistol there is though not "state of the art" as far as ergos and being ambi but plenty good my needs. Highly regarded and for a long time CCW choice for Bruce Gray of Gray Guns.

The SP2022 is a freaking tank as you can tell when you first pick it up as it is heavier than probably all the other poly frame 9MM pistols. The slide rides on massive steel tabs. These tabs are not imbedded in the frame like most other poly pistols.The front steel tabs are part of the steel locking insert and the rear are part of the steel FCU. You rarely hear about a problem with the SP2022 and rarer that a part breaks. The French tested the crap out of the SP2022 before buying a quarter million of them. You could probably keep an SP2022 running almost forever as long as SIG could still supply parts if and when needed.

My only complaint is with the slide release lever as it is long and sticks out a little bit and with my thumbs forward grip sometimes the slide does not lock back on empty because I touch it with my strong hand thumb. I just live with it. i don't carry and extra magazine with me anyway when I CCW a double stack pistols.

Beware that the SP2022 is pretty much a what you see is what you get pistol. Not a pistol to own if you want to tinker with or customize. Plenty of holsters available for it but not much else as far as third party parts/accessories. SIG offers three grips for the SP2022. Most come with just the grip on the SP2022 or maybe a small also. Still a great pistol right out of the box and a great value for the investment.

 

[HexHead]

Please list those other better options, keeping in mind this thread is comparing one hammer fired DA/SA to another hammer fired DA/SA, which polymer framed DA/SA hammer fired pistol is a better option over Sig?

HK.

 

[pblanc]

They are both quality pistols. Disclaimer: I don't own either. I do own a Beretta 92 FS. I have shot the SIG.

Yes, I have heard some state that the Beretta 96 had a finite life span but then I have heard others say they have shot many thousands of rounds out of their 96s with no problems.

In terms of function one of the biggest differences is the Beretta has a slide-mounted ambidextrous safety/decocker and the SIG has a non-ambidextrous frame-mounted decocker. Most people consider SIGs to be less friendly to left-handed shooters.

Assuming you are right-handed, if you don't like how far the Beretta 96's safety/decocker levers stick out, if you don't need the right sided lever, and you find that the stock levers make it uncomfortable for you to cycle the slide or you are concerned about accidentally putting the gun on-safe during a malfunction drill, then you simply buy a Wilson Combat single lever lo-profile safety/decocker. It makes it just about impossible to accidentally activate the safety but harder to take the safety off. No problem, with the long double-action trigger pull for self-defense just use the lever as a decocker and flip it back up after decocking. This is how I keep my 92FS when loaded as a SD weapon: round chambered, hammer down, safety off. Personally, I find the option of the manual safety nice for range use.

If you have not handled a Beretta 92 or 96 I would suggest you do so before making a selection. Both the 96 or the 2022 are on the thick side with full-bodied grips but I would say that the Beretta is more so. That could be good if you have larger hands, but quite a few people have difficulty with the reach to the double action trigger with the stock Beretta grips. I believe that the SIG P2022 DA trigger reach is a bit more comfortable, but I am relying on my memory which is not what it once was.

 

[Jed Carter]

I like the Beretta 92 with one exception, the slide mounted safety / decocker.
I like the SIG P226, P229, and my first SIG the P239. Comparable to the Beretta I would go with the SIG P226, frame mounted decocker, easier take down IMO. Both are accurate, reliable, big service pistols, Beretta is really good looking, SIG not so much, but looks aren't everything. Sig finish seems to hold up better than the Beretta with continuous holster use. A retired LEO friend of mine has both, used both on the job, the SIG still looks like new, the Beretta not so good.

 

[stchman]

The Beretta.

IMO the Beretta 96 is a better built handgun than the SP2022 AND it looks a lot nicer.

If budget constraints are big, the SP2022 as it is a less expensive firearm.