SIG P220 .45 Stainless "Special Forces"

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I have an oppurtunity to purchase a SIG P220 .45 Stainless "Special Forces" it is black with the SF emblem on top of the slide. I have seen alot of prices for a P220 Stainless but none that are special forces. What do you think this gun would be worth brand new? I am geting it for 640? Thanks for your help!

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I'm a member of the SOCOM community, and I've never heard of SF utilizing a SIG (though I admit maybe I'm not a deep enough "operator"). I'd pay about as much for that as I'd pay for the hundreds of "Operation Enduring Freedom: 1 of 1000" Berettas and SIGs that seem to be floating around out there - the same as I'd pay for the stock model.
 
Yep, I don't know of any special operations personnel who will go around carrying anything that advertises that fact either.
I have owned two P220s, both were purchased and sold years ago and I didn't give over $450.00 for either of them.
 
Thanks for the input. I was kinda of leary because I could not find any info on the web about a SF P220. I do know the guy is in the Special Forces and supposdly only SF can order this gun. Does Sig put the emblem on them or does soemone else buy it then put the emblem on top of them.

Here is a picture of what the gun looks like but this is not it this a P226R SF http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976624687.htm
 
The only time I've heard of SIG's being used by Special Forces is that the Navy SEALS often train with 228's as well as other firearms (at one time, they trained w/ S&W 65 .357's too.) :cool:

Just another gimmick for sales. Slap "Tactical" or "SpecOps" on a product, and watch your sales rise. Can't wait to see someone market "Tactical Boxer Shorts".... :rolleyes:
 
It's nothing special. They just put "Special Forces" or make it out to be some tactical combat pistol to increase the price. They put SF on it and everybody wants a special forces pistol.
 
If you do a search over on the sigforum you'll find that SIG offered a special purchase plan of 220's and I think 226's to people in the SF community. This was not an issue weapon, simply a chance to buy something with the emblem for a personally owned gun. These are now finding their way into the normal distribution channels and I suspect the quantity produced was much greater than the demand. However, $640 is a great price for a NIB 220ST emblem or not.

--usp_fan
 
It's a standard Sig P220.

The SF logo does not reflect issue of Sig 220s to anybody within USASFC or USASOC.

Some SF units have worked out a deal with Sig to get weapons (for personal, not professional, use) for members at significantly reduced cost (220s, 226s, and 229s). It is supposed to be for individual use, but some less than scrupulous jackasses have been known to order several and sell them to pawn shops, etc. (I say jackasses because Sig regards this as abusing a program they voluntarily participate in and may, eventually, just kill the whole program.) Also note that the SF crest on the weapon is an option, not all obtained via the program are so marked, for whatever that is worth.

If you've found the weapon in a gun store, especially in, say, the Fort Bragg area, the weapon you are looking at is probably from such a jackass.

But, all that said, it's a good price for a P220. If you don't mind the SF crest bling on the weapon, I'd say go for it.
 
HorseSoldier, I think you nailed it, I was just trying to figure out where these guns are coming or if they had any extra value.
 
Sorry this post is so dated. To end the speculation on this. Check the serial number. If it has a 5SFG in it, then the weapon was part of a run for 5th Special Forces Group. These were given serial numbers that distinguish them from any pistols that had a crest engraved on them, but standard SNs. The first run required a certain number of pistols in the order (I think that 100 to start production), then Sig would accept orders of 25 or more in a lot. I purchased 3 initially and gave one to my father-in-law and kept the other two. They are all of the first 100 run, so the SNs are below the 100 mark. Not for sale by me, but the price of $640 is not much more than the original price plus background check. Does that answer?
 
Here's the deal. Any SF Battalion Armororer worth his salt can score this . Sig will do a run of guns and etch the SF crest into the blueing behind the slide and distro them out at pretty much cost. For me it is a great souvenir of my OIF IV tour with 3/1 SFG. Got a great price, somewhere around 6 bills. Not for sale but not real rare either. It's for my som when he grows up. But just for the record, we have HK MK 23s and Beretta 92s and to be honest, the only advantage the MK 23 had besides the extra hit was a threaded barrel to accept a slencer. But really... we were making so much noiuse busting down doors and firing mimi guns, the silencer was not an issue. The handgun of choice for SF in CENTCOM is the model 92. Don't let any of those knucklehead wannabee gun nuts tell you different. A 9 mil double tab works better that a .45. Trust me on this.
 
Kind'a like the over run by SIG on "Blackwater 9m/m P226's~~! :uhoh:

Yep, complete with the Blackwater logo on top of the gun, roll marked
as 'Blackwater" on the slide, and even has "Blackwater" grips. But, try
too use the extra set of grips that come with each weapon; along with
five magazines. The grip screws are too damn long for the regular grips,
causing them to bind against the magazine in the weapon; and when
the magazine release is depressed, the magazine won't bulge. When
my customer contact a so-called SIG customer service rep in New
Hamphsire; they were told that they would have to purchase the
correct aftermarket screws from Brownells~! :eek: :scrutiny: :(

SIG needs to wake up and smell the roses, as farting off customers
is not a good policy. Don't get me wrong here, I love my two West
German SIG's greatly; but those powers too be in New Hampshire
won't party on my dime~! ;) :D
 
A 9 mil double tab works better that a .45. Trust me on this
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I'd say equal. The difference is with 9mm you have more bullets. Multiple gunshoot wounds are the goal. I guarantee multiple hits will be a much bigger factor than caliber. The only thing more important is shot placement.
 
Found this thread on a google search, from the web, LOL.

I too, have a P220 with the SF ensignia on the front of the slide. The model ID on the box ends in "SF". I called Sig today, and had the person run the SN. The only info she could develope, was that it was not a retail item, and ordered through the LE/Mil dept. Dated approx 2006, and indicated a couple thousand were made.

Mine has an internal ejector, and has never been fired (seller said, and I believe him due to barrel condition).

Wish I had more to share, LOL...

Has anyone learned more?

PS Mine does NOT have the USGI preface on the SN.
 
They're not .mil issue weapons, they're commemorative/collectible deals that Sig was offering to various units and such several years back (they may still be dong so, last I heard about it was probably 2005, maybe?). Me and several guys from my last active duty unit were interested in them, but we could never get enough guys on board to get an order put together.
 
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