Sig P220 donates all my brass to the range, anything I can do?

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I just got a P220 and I love it, but it ejects all my brass at about 2 o'clock, where it bounces forward and about 10 yards into the range. I'm a reloader and I pick up all my brass, but if I keep shooting this thing I won't have any left.

Is there anything I can do to get it to eject the brass in a more preferable direction, like 4 o'clock???
 
Since no one's volunteering, I'll take the lead and tell you that now is the time to buy a Glock 21 and stop using other brands. In fact just go out and buy a G19 it's the only gun anyone needs. (even for shooting squirrels)



That being said my 2012 P220 does sling my brass out around 4 O'clock or so. If only I could potty train it like my P229 was. Never even had to take more than one step to collect the 40 brass.

Hope someone, comes along with some real help. Nothing worse than losing brass.
 
How about one of those goofy-looking handheld brass catchers?
 
NET

I made a small curtain / Net that I hang in the booth with me, when I shoot my brass engages it and then either falls down on the table or ends up at my feet. Used some nylon mesh and a PVC pipe to build it and have been using it now for some time. Sure beats chasing brass around.
 
ritepath said:
Since no one's volunteering, I'll take the lead and tell you that now is the time to buy a Glock 21 and stop using other brands. In fact just go out and buy a G19 it's the only gun anyone needs. (even for shooting squirrels)
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Hilarious! :D

But then he'd maybe go from launching it out into the range to getting it right in The Kisser..... :evil: :what:

:cuss:

Losing brass is just...wrong. I shoot a lot of .32 and my guns fling that stuff far, far away where other folks sweep it up and toss it before I can snag it. +1 on the net idea.

VooDoo
 
Agree with the Glock comment. You could tape a minnow net to your glasses and the brass would bounce right in off your forehead.
 
Hire a small monkey to try to catch all the brass as it ejects?

Are your ejector and extractor OK?
 
Find a friend who has an outdoor range or move to a state where you can shoot on public land.
 
Had a Ruger Ranch rifle in .223 once that flung brass fast and to the rear of of me, hit a car's windshield and cracked the glass.
 
WOW buy a glock someone needs help and that's our answer.

I believe there are two things happening here. I believe your load is lite for the recoil spring you have in your 220. I have had this same thing happen in Sig's, Glocks's yes Glock's and S&W M&P's. Your load being lite is allowing the slide to catch empty brass when returning to battery and knock it forward.

Two remedies here, either get a lighter recoil spring this I would not recommend myself although it is an easy operation I am not a fan due to the frame battering that could potentially happen.

Or you can up your loads, if you have any W231 or if you can find any 5.1grains of this will throw your brass at 4oclock with the factory spring.

Also to ensure absolutely nothing is wrong with the pistol try and find some cheap factory ammunition and see what the results are.

What load are you using?

Hope this helps.
 
I would go with a small net if that can be done at your range alright.

Different loads or messing with the extractor/springs could change it but that would be a very last resort for me.
 
Mr.Revolverguy said:
WOW buy a glock someone needs help and that's our answer.

I believe there are two things happening here. I believe your load is lite for the recoil spring you have in your 220. I have had this same thing happen in Sig's, Glocks's yes Glock's and S&W M&P's. Your load being lite is allowing the slide to catch empty brass when returning to battery and knock it forward.

Two remedies here, either get a lighter recoil spring this I would not recommend myself although it is an easy operation I am not a fan due to the frame battering that could potentially happen.

Or you can up your loads, if you have any W231 or if you can find any 5.1grains of this will throw your brass at 4oclock with the factory spring.

Also to ensure absolutely nothing is wrong with the pistol try and find some cheap factory ammunition and see what the results are.

What load are you using?

Hope this helps.
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The two loads I was shooting were 185 LSWC over 8.5gr AA5 and then 230 LRN over 5.1 Green Dot.
 
There are brass catcher nets that clamp to the bench.

And, as said, you can tweak the load or get a trial pack of different recoil springs from Wolff to see if you can change the ejection pattern.

Otherwise, don't buy a Glock, get a revolver. :)
 
My taurus pt99 did the same. I worked the extractor over and it now dumps more consistently, but still in the weeds at the side of the field we shoot in. I now try to park my truck where I can use the bed as a brass catcher. For most folks I would suggest 1/2" pvc pipe to build a curtain rod, and mosquito netting to catch the brass. Netting is light, and all you really want to do is deflect the brass as that uses up most of its energy and it falls pretty much straight down. If you can funnel into a 5 gal bucket it's even better.
 
Wife and I were both sailors so we are adept at "manning the brooms". We just sweep the cases up into a pile and then they go on a plastic sandwich bag. Our ranges (rifle and handgun) are on large concrete slabs so sweeping is easy.

Other than that, all I can suggest is a brass catcher. I made one from PVC piping and fishing net mesh. It worked fairly well.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pvc...K_PIYurggSU1YAY&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1232&bih=705
 
Yeah I wasn't talking about the extractor spring that too would be my absolute last resort I was talking recoil spring.

Having said that I would not mess with the 185gr load you are very close to max already. On the greendot load you have a little room but not much to make a difference.

With those slightly fast burning powders I would get a lighter recoil spring from wolff before I would start messing around with the extractor.

I think the people here have done some outstanding things with homemade brass catchers but for me I have more stuff in the car when going to the range that a brass catcher would just agitate me. But this could be a solution for you. Between range bag, targets, chronograph one more thing would be a pain :)
 
Some rare ranges will, if it's not busy, go cold for a few minutes and let you get your brass.

Otherwise, if you're going to stay there, get a really long-handled squeegee, with an extension. Did that years ago and it got about 90%.
 
0to60 said:
I just got a P220 and I love it, but it ejects all my brass at about 2 o'clock, where it bounces forward and about 10 yards into the range. I'm a reloader and I pick up all my brass, but if I keep shooting this thing I won't have any left.

Is there anything I can do to get it to eject the brass in a more preferable direction, like 4 o'clock???
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I am not a re-loader, but are you loading your 45ACP a little hot? My brother re-loads 45ACP and drops 5 grains on a 230 grain FMJ bullet. The brass ejects from his 1911, my P90s and P97 at about 3 o'clock about 5 feet away. When I use store bought ammo it chucks the brass a little further.
 
I've got 3 10mms and they all throw the brass at least 30 feet away. Wish I could find a load to drop them at my feet like a 9...
 
Wish my P220 ejected forward of its 4 o'clock path. I only shoot at outdoor ranges so I pick up all my brass.
The problem with the 4 o'clock ejection is it hits the slide port edge when leaving and puts a nice ding in every empty...of course since I reload they get ironed out on the next firing, but I'd rather it not happen.
It does put them all in a nice 1 foot circle or so, makes them easy to find, I have had guns that fling 'em all over the place.
 
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