Sig P226 is overrated!

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Why is it so hard for many of you to digest the fact that there may be a better gun out there than Sig. Honestly speaking HK P30, if you ever held one, beats Sig hands down in all departments. Since mid 70s and crap load of R&D that went into Sig engineering, its hasn't improved much. Don't give me the argument that there isn't much to improve because that's just a gaffe at best. Seems like anyone who does not agree with you is automatically put in the troll basket to discredit their opinion. The reason I kept buying Sig was for different models (within 226) trying to understand and find fault in me, but it was the gun- wasn't for me. I know its a solid product and hated just marginalizing it. Sig is excellent if you ar LEO carry openly, but if you want it for CCW and ergonomically superior product - think again.
 
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Honestly speaking HK P30, if you ever held one, beats Sig hands down in all departments.

I've held both...and no the P30 does not beat the SIG. I hate the slide release that is so far forward on the HKs...I hate the decocker that is right next to the hammer. (I can imagine some fat thumbed fellows getting a nice pinched thumb when using that decocker.)

I am not wild about the plastic trigger either.
 
How does the P30 not beat a Sig226? Care to explain this a little? You guys makes me laugh when you say I don't like plastic. Does this make you feel tough? Or does this make the gun less effective. P30 is a completely ambidextrous pistol and ergonomically superior to Sig226. Why in the world would you want an unnecessarily heavy pistol. It does not make it more effective.
 
How does the P30 not beat a Sig226?
DA trigger pull is much smoother on the 226...makes a difference.

BTW, I own two P30s. Great handguns, but better than a 226, I'm not so sure. Older age of a design does not make a handgun inferior. There is something to be said for longivity and proven results. There have also been reliability issues with some of the first P30s, and that doesn't mean the P30 isn't a good handgun. It is.
 
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How does the P30 not beat a Sig226? Care to explain this a little? .

It doesn't beat the SIG because that is my opinion, just like it is your opinion that it does.

P30 is a completely ambidextrous pistol and ergonomically superior to Sig226.

maybe for you...not for me, not for everyone.

I think that should be a universally known fact on this forum. What is right for you isn't always right for someone else.
 
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If you are talking elite then yes trigger is bette on 226, otherwise I don't agree..

Hoofan1, how is P30 not ambi?

All I have say to Sig is basically, lose some weight and get a damn haircut, so its ergonomic and lighter and not chunky.
 
Why is it so hard for many of you to digest the fact that there may be a better gun out there than Sig. Honestly speaking HK P30, if you ever held one, beats Sig hands down in all departments.
Well, your lone SIG experience is with a few variants of the P226, a full size service / duty pistol, and you're comparing it to a Compact HK. I bet if you'd started with four variants of the USP, and then handled a SIG P239 or P229e2 your opinions would be significantly different. If 1911s were more your style then a Commander size piece with a lightweight aluminum or scandium frame would beat the heck out of a steel frame government model (but I carry a 5" steel frame 1911 comfortably, so what the hades do I know).

We're not having any trouble understanding that there are subjectively better guns out there than SIGs: You just seem to have trouble selecting carry guns. Objectively SIGs, Glocks, HKs, S&Ws, XDs, Rugers, FNs, etc; are all durable, reliable, and plenty accurate for self defence. Objectively it takes hair splitting to define the better gun of the major brands. Subjectively a given model from the major brands may be better than that from another brand based upon personal preference, departmental policy, or agency protocol.

The reason I kept buying Sig was for different models (within 226) trying to understand and find fault in me, but it was the gun- wasn't for me.
For the life of me I can't figure out why you'd keep buying P226 variants when you state you want a smaller and lighter carry gun. The P239, 225, 228, and 229 are smaller and lighter than the P226. Just because it wasn't for you doesn't make it overrated, nor even bad. Heck, SIGs aren't for me. I've spent so much time with 1911s that my thumbs hit the slide stop/release, and I fumble with the decocker when I'm trying to hit the slide release (take a close look at the layout of both guns, and you'll understand). That still doesn't make SIGs bad, it just means I'd need to train with SIGs to transition from 1911s if I wanted to carry SIGs.

On the other hand, my previous room mate ran off and became a Special Agent. He's a Glock armorer, but his agency issues the SIG P229. He bought a P229 a few months before he left for FLETC so he could make the transition from Glock to SIG ahead of time, rather than in training where it would be a handicap. Lo and behold, early on he found out that slow fire, from a rest, to test mechanical accuracy, the SIG shot better groups. Go figure.

How does the P30 not beat a Sig226? Care to explain this a little?
I'll explain it again. You're comparing a full size duty gun to a compact pistol. If I were to compare a HK USP to the SIG P229 in terms of utility for a CCW the P229 would clean the USP's clock.
P30 is a completely ambidextrous pistol and ergonomically superior to Sig226.
Again, let's compare apples to apples, and oranges to oranges. For a CCW pistol if you switch the P226 to the P229 (P229e2 for me) and compare it to the HK P30 then you have a much more level playing field.
Why in the world would you want an unnecessarily heavy pistol. It does not make it more effective.
Again, I don't know. Please tell us why you kept buying these full size SIG P226s - rather than compact SIGs, HKs, Glocks, S&Ws, etc - when you wanted a lighter carry pistol? Why don't you buy a Glock 21 for your next carry pistol and tell us how big & heavy it is, and how Glocks are so over rated. Then we'll tell you that you should've purchased a Glock 19/23/32/38 or 26/27/33/36/39 if you wanted a carry gun.

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All I have say to Sig is basically, lose some weight and get a damn haircut, so its ergonomic and lighter and not chunky.
Again, they're called the P239, P228, and P229 - especially the P229e2: They're not mythical creatures.
 
How does the P30 not beat a Sig226? Care to explain this a little? You guys makes me laugh when you say I don't like plastic. Does this make you feel tough? Or does this make the gun less effective. P30 is a completely ambidextrous pistol and ergonomically superior to Sig226. Why in the world would you want an unnecessarily heavy pistol. It does not make it more effective.
It is not as accurate.
 
Why is it so hard for many of you to digest the fact that there may be a better gun out there than Sig.

There are better guns out there. No one is saying that the P226 is the best gun out there. But it is an excellent handgun with far better ergonomics, trigger pull, and accuracy than some of the guns you are praising.
 
USP's and G17's are polymer. CZ's, at least the 75/85 and the 97, are metal just like the P226, and are also a little on the heavy side when fully loaded, just like the P226.
 
Hoofan1, how is P30 not ambi?

It is not ergonomically superior for me. I am right handed so the SIG P226 or P229 not being ambidextrous is of no consequence to me. I've found the FNP and P229 to be more ergonomic than the HK P30 and the P226 to be more ergonomic than the HK USP. I can reach and operate the slide release much easier and keep the guns pointed down range while releasing the slide much easier on the FNP and SIGs. I much prefer the SIG decocker to the HK or FNP decocker. Since price was brought up in the original thread, we can say that the HKs are also overpriced. Their weight shedding polymer that you praise should have them priced lower than their SIG counterparts, but they are not. For that argument to work, you are much better using the FNP as a counter example...they are also ambidextrous.

Ergonomics are completely subjective and vary from person to person.
 
I've been watching everyone squabble over this while cleaning my Sigs. Clearly, I have a preference if my semi-auto pistols are Sigs. But it's just a personal preference. Fits my hand better. They work for me. I'm nostalgic. I like spending my money on old guns. I'm sure I can get great reliable guns for cheaper. I don't really care. We like what we like. The OP wasn't impressed with the 226. Guess it didn't work out for him. It's good he moved on.
 
Four times? That's like marrying the same woman 4x. Slow learning process? How much value can we reasonably assign to the opinion of someone who claims he made the identical mistake repeatedly. I've heard doing the same action repeatedly, but expecting different results, described as the definition of insanity. You've basically advised us your opinion is completely worthless.
 
Thanks Shirley,
As an administrator I would have expected more class and substance in your post, but it is nothing more then a smart *** remark. It does not suite you at all. Calling someone's opinion worthless as an admin of the site shows your worth as well. I expected to stick, but this aint my kinda of town so I better get out of here. Take care and thanks for your hospitality.
 
Sorry No. 1 but your opinion is not No. 1 and it is in fact just that, your opinion. You better get used to two facts really quickly. One, you are not No. 1, two your opinion is not fact.

P30 is a polymer framed gun with out full length rails, it looks like crap which you said yourself was so important, it's uber expensive, replacement parts availability is nill, and the P226 fits some of us like a glove. My opinion, I traded both my HK's for a P226 X5 Tac.
 
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