Sig P232s problems

[the_skunk]

On later models the bolt face doesn't have the shell retainer which holds the casing in place until it hits the ejector.

The gun fires, the bolt recoils, and when the casing clears the barrel it can fall into the ejection port. The bolt continues backwards, picks up a new round, which feeds half way into the barrel. Now you have the old casing blocking the bolt, 'The dreaded double feed'.

 

[Mizar]

This is a Ruger 22/45...

Boris

 

[J2FLAN]

Ruger--yep, had me going

Had this with my MK111, it was a ammo issue. Try CCI mini mags after you detail strip/inspect and clean it real good.

 

[wally]

I wondered why he posted a photo of a Ruger in a thread about a SIG.

Volquartsen "Exact Edge" extractor has cured my MKII and 22/45 MKIII of this issue. You'll also find threads about modifying the mags, this helped some but the extractor was the final solution for me. We shoot little else besides the Federal Bulk pack from Walmart, about 2000-2500 rounds a month between me and the wife depending on the weather.

IMHO, needing to shoot ammo that approaches the cost of cheap 9mm is not a useful solution to the problem.

 

[the_skunk]

That is a clear picture of a double feed .... the Sig P232 has the identical problem

 

[wally]

That is a clear picture of a double feed ....

Incorrect. That is not a "double feed" as only one live round is out of the mag and the chamber is empty except for the partially fed round.

Its a "stovepipe" ejection failure -- more difficult to clear in a Ruger than most because the empty wedges in between the next live round and the recoil spring guide rod. The rim on the .22LR doesn't help the situation.

The root of the problem usually lies in the extractor, possibly the ejector if broken or bent or loose.

 

[Jed Carter]

To get my P232 to stove pipe would take a very limp wrist, something I cannot seem to get mine to do. Possible mechanical remedy would be a new recoil spring for your SIG. I am at a loss when I see a pic of another pistol used as an example. If you are having a problem it would be helpfull to know all details including ammunition used and a pic of the actual problem on the actual pistol. 2000 + rounds of all types of hollow point ammunition and not a single problem from my P232.

 

[the_skunk]

Limp Wrist: ..... Gun doesn't cycle because lack of firm grip

Stove Pipe: ..... Bolt doesn't fully cycle and catches ejection shell

Double feed: ..... Two shells trying to get in the chamber


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My problem is the ejection process. I have a ejected shell laying in the ejection chamber. The gun fires, the bolt retracts, the shell drops, the bolt picks up a new round, and it's partially in the barrel.

In a limp wrist scenerio the bolt doesn't go back enough to pick up a new round. So, my problem is either a 'broken extractor' or bolt face that isn't machined correctly.

It's a new gun so hopefully Sig will fix it

 

[Mizar]

Skunk, your gun is not a .22 cal pistol and it does not need a "shell retainer" or double extractor to function properly. You can try different ammo and leaving the pistol with slide locked on slide stop (to settle the recoil spring) for a day or two before sending it back to Sig-Sauer.

Boris

 

[the_skunk]

Skunk, your gun is not a .22 cal pistol and it does not need a "shell retainer" or double extractor to function properly. You can try different ammo and leaving the pistol with slide locked on slide stop (to settle the recoil spring) for a day or two before sending it back to Sig-Sauer.

The Sig is touted as a 'Back Up' pistol. It has rave reviews as an engineering marvel. I am at a complete loss to this malfunction