CraigC
Sixgun Nut
I didn't say the .357 wouldn't do the job but what does bullet failure matter when your quarry is already trapped???
Single Action: 45LC or 357?
- Thread starter WoodchuckAssassin
- Start date
- Status
MCgunner
Member
I have to kill 'em, ain't like I'm going to let 'em out alive. So, I test various loads on 'em. .357 165 grain Keith SWC at 1470 fps (6.5" blackhawk) works a lot better than 255 FN .45 Cot at 900 fps. Puts 'em down quicker. Just a fact. The trap just catches my test medium. 
But, go ahead and believe your myth.
But, go ahead and believe your myth.
Last edited:
MCgunner
Member
This ain't the thread for Fackler vs Courtney, anyway. It's already been cussed and discussed to death. It was all these internet wisdoms that got me to wondering about various loads on pigs, anyway, and, well, the Strasbourg goat tests were an inspiration.
It's already been cussed and discussed to death. It was all these internet wisdoms that got me to wondering about various loads on pigs, anyway, and, well, the Strasbourg goat tests were an inspiration.
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Myth??? I believe Elmer Keith settled this 80yrs ago.
Why are you so defensive???
Are we talking brain shots?
WALKERs210
Member
If you know someone that has a revolver in 45Colt try it out. Think the first round will make a believer out of you. My Ruger Bisley Vaquero is a dream to shoot, and I have a repo 1892 also in 45 Colt. Both are super great shooters. The 357 will handle 38Spl and be cheaper to shoot, but again try one out first.
WoodchuckAssassin
Member
Enough Pissing
I declare no winner and no loser to the pissing match created by my thread. Thank you all for your input; I have learned a lot about the 45LC and 357 in the single action revolver platform, and that was all this thread was intended for. Again, thank you for all the opinions/facts regarding this topic.
If it's ok with the Mods, this thread can be closed now.
Is there a winner between 45LC and 357?
NO! They both kill things dead, and there's always a lot of gray to tread through when a question such as this is asked. Happy hunting to you all, and to all a happy hunt!
I declare no winner and no loser to the pissing match created by my thread. Thank you all for your input; I have learned a lot about the 45LC and 357 in the single action revolver platform, and that was all this thread was intended for. Again, thank you for all the opinions/facts regarding this topic.
If it's ok with the Mods, this thread can be closed now.
Is there a winner between 45LC and 357?
NO! They both kill things dead, and there's always a lot of gray to tread through when a question such as this is asked. Happy hunting to you all, and to all a happy hunt!
MCgunner
Member
It's really pretty simple, caliber performance aside. In the Blackhawk, power wise, the .45 Colt wins, anyway, can even give the .44 magnum a run.
Non-handloader and hard up for ammo cash...... .357 magnum. .38s are as wonderful to shoot as any .45 colt and, for hunting, work for small game.
Handloader, or don't mind the cost of ammo...... .45 Colt It'll give you more power with hot loads and the cowboy loads are powder puff to shoot, great fun.
I find myself shooting more .38 than anything because it's so easy on powder and lead, but then, I own 3 .38s and 3 .357s of one sort or another and I CCW a .38 pocket carry and a .357 DA on the belt, so it pays to practice with them. Also, I crank out .38s on a progressive, single stage press for the .45 Colt. I love shooting my .45 and my cap and ball .44s, though.
BTW, mods, no need to worry about me in this tiff with CraigC. I remembered why I had ignored him in the first place.
Non-handloader and hard up for ammo cash...... .357 magnum. .38s are as wonderful to shoot as any .45 colt and, for hunting, work for small game.
Handloader, or don't mind the cost of ammo...... .45 Colt It'll give you more power with hot loads and the cowboy loads are powder puff to shoot, great fun.
I find myself shooting more .38 than anything because it's so easy on powder and lead, but then, I own 3 .38s and 3 .357s of one sort or another and I CCW a .38 pocket carry and a .357 DA on the belt, so it pays to practice with them. Also, I crank out .38s on a progressive, single stage press for the .45 Colt. I love shooting my .45 and my cap and ball .44s, though.
BTW, mods, no need to worry about me in this tiff with CraigC. I remembered why I had ignored him in the first place.
Last edited:
RealGun
Member
May be, but what I referred to as more or less "cheap stuff" is Cowboy running well under 800fps. Here's an example from one of gunbot's lowest priced rounds comparable to what I was talking about. Says 761 fps.
Not trying to hijack this thread, but mention here for sake of Safety on conversion cylinders: If you are thinking of a conversion cylinder, watch Midway. They have had a few sales recently on them for both Uberti and Pietta. Then head over to 1858Remington.com they have a few threads regarding the timing of the conversion cylinders. I have two Piettas, one accepts any of the conversion cylinders I have without a problem. The newer one has a bolt issue, where the bolt will drop out of locking the cylinder upon firing and cause the cylinder to counter rotate. The bolt (I believe) needs minor rounding off and tuning. I understand Taylor's will take just the bolt from your gun and modify it. That is my next step for making the newer Pietta safe and reliable. Please forgive if my terminology isn't 100%, just repeating and learning as I go, but this issue I consider safety significant.Just bought this today. Will get a 45 Colt conversion cylinder for it in the near future.
Sent from my KFOT using Tapatalk 2
Legionnaire
Contributing Member
And if you're running .45 Colt through a black powder conversion cylinder, stick to cowboy action or black powder loads. I don't believe either the gun frames or the cylinders themselves are up to a steady diet of full power smokeless cartridges.
MCgunner
Member
I could use a 9mm cylinder for my .357 blackhawk. Wonder if Ruger would fit me one if I sent the gun to them? Thing is, I load 9x19 on a Dillon and have brass out the wazoo. I have plenty of .38, just think having a 9 cylinder would be a good thing for me.
RPRNY
Member
Excellent advice, thank you! Mine's an Uberti but I was unaware of 1858remington.com. I'm sure it's a great resource and will check it out.
When I bought my Vaquero I had a couple peramiters, one was economy .45 vs .357/.38 and stopping power.
I went with the .357 because it gave the broadest spectrum of both. I have the awsome power of the Magnum but srill have the option of the economy of the .38 and with the rising ammo costs the .357 was cheaper all around.
I can hunt many various game animals with the .357 and can plink with the .38
Frankily I would love to have a .45 Vaquero because of tradition but basic economics negates that.
HTH,
ZVP
I went with the .357 because it gave the broadest spectrum of both. I have the awsome power of the Magnum but srill have the option of the economy of the .38 and with the rising ammo costs the .357 was cheaper all around.
I can hunt many various game animals with the .357 and can plink with the .38
Frankily I would love to have a .45 Vaquero because of tradition but basic economics negates that.
HTH,
ZVP
jack44
Member
I prefer my 44mag over those two.
- Status
