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I've been playing around with the idea of getting an old style single action revolver I'd put up a poll but I don't even know where to start so any suggestions, or pictures of revolvers you have that you'd recomend?
 
What do you mean by "old style". Ruger Blackhawks look old-Western to most people, but are nice range guns and effective hunting tools. Or are you thinking about an authentic reproduction (pardon the oxymoron :eek: )?
 
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Here's one of mine, a Ruger Vaquero with a 4 5/8" barrel and case hardened frame, chambered in .45 Colt.

The Ruger Single-Actions are styled after the Colt SAA but with some alterations including a modern transfer-bar system. The Vaqueros have fixed sights, and the Blackhawks have adjustable sights. They are available in a variety of calibers ranging from .22 to .45.

I only have personal experience with Colt and Ruger single actions, but many of the import guns have very good reputations.
 
Which came first, the username or the desire for the SA? Both at the same time?

I will also suggest you checking out beretta's stampede model.
 
OK. You got a LOT of choices here.

A real Colt SAA feels great in the hand, but doesn't have a safety. Hence you load it "five up" and let the hammer down on the empty chamber for carry.

A lot of "true clones" of the Colt are out there, which also lack any real safety. Most of the Italian guns are of this sort, the entire USFA product line, many more.

There are three guns out there that are close to the SAA in feel, but have modern transfer bar safeties: the Beretta Stampede, Taurus Gaucho and Ruger "New Vaquero". Of these the Ruger is the least Colt-like of the lot: you do all loading with the hammer down, just open the loading gate to unlock the cylinder. All other Colt-variants need to be "half cocked" prior to loading. The Ruger system is less authentic, but it's faster. The New Vaq also has a lot of un-Colt-like "innards": coil springs instead of flat for example.

The original Ruger "Vaquero" (now being called the "Old Vaquero" unofficially by some) is built on the larger Ruger frame same as most post-1973 Blackhawks and all SuperBlackHawks. It can handle some real stomper loads. In 45LC these include up to 325gr at up to 1,300fps, which is deep into 44Mag horsepower territory. All of the smaller guns I've mentioned previously come in 45LC caliber (and usually others too) but these monster "45LC+P" loads must NOT be fired out of a Colt SAA-class gun (with or without transfer bar safety).

Colt also made a "New Frontier" which is the SAA but with adjustable sights. A number of SAA-types have been made with adjustable sights matching the looks of the New Frontier. The Ruger Blackhawk is best known of these. Ruger makes one oddball Blackhawk: the "50th Anniversary 357 Flattop" is built on the same smaller and handier frame as the New Vaquero. All other post-73 Blackhawks are built on the bigger 44Mag-class frame same as the "Old Vaquero".

I believe that somebody new to SA revolvers should start with something with a transfer bar safety. The transfer bar won't allow the gun to fire if dropped even if it's cocked first - the trigger must be pressed AND held back to allow firing. It's safe to carry a transfer bar gun fully loaded, hammer down, same as any post-WW2 DA revolver.

My gun is a New Vaq in 357 with modified sights - a dovetail front and a rear sight channel hogged out to match.

The Ruger mid-frame series (New Vaq and the 50th Anniversary 357 Blackhawk) are VERY well made guns, some of the best quality control Ruger has done in years. They're also parts-swappable with the rest of the Ruger product line: mine wears a SuperBlackHawk lowered hammer and I can swap grip frames to either a Bisley or Bird's Head pattern.

If you're into "modding" guns the Ruger is THE way to go!

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by old style I mean anything old western style that is single action, it could be reproduction and otherwise, I appreciate the info.
 
For me there are really only two choices. A Ruger, New or Old Model, which are fine guns and reasonably priced, great value. I own a slew of them. If one truly wants the equivalent of a fine early Colt, meaning very high quality, fit, finish, etc., then it is a USFA. Here's my USFA.

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Another option to consider is the Taurus Gaucho. I have 2 in .357 and for the most part, they have been fairly reliable.

I have one that gives me light primer strikes, and one that has been ultra-reliable. They are reasonably priced, and have the transfer bar safety so you can actually carry 6 shots in your 6 shooter.
 
what are your thoughts on the berretta laramine, I like the break top but not so sure on the quality on this particular revolver in comparison to others.
 
I say go with Ruger in new model, not just vaq's which someone was mentioning, all new model Ruger's are safe to load 6 in, they all have a tranfer bar that is activacted by the trigger, there is no chance of a blow back. I myself own 2 new model Rugers in .357 and 44 mag, and an old model 44-40, which i only would load 5 rounds in. Plus with Ruger you can always count on 100% made in U.S.A and basically an implied lifetime warranty for any owner of the gun. Oh I forgot if you do own an old model Ruger you can send it in for a conversion safety installed and only cost you the shipping fee.
 
The Laramie break-top is very fragile.

Notice that though it's a full-size gun, they set it up in 38Spl rather than 357Mag. There's a reason breaktops went out of fashion.

If you get it in 45LC, better stick with "Cowboy Action loads", meaning a MAX of a 250gr lead at 700-750ish feet per second. Try and run jacketed 225s at 950 (Winchester Silvertip) more than once or twice, it will accellerate wear considerably and the stronger Cor-Bon/Buffbore "SAA Compatible" 200gr @ 1,100fps could *maybe* blow it up.

In a modern Colt SAA, the Ruger New Vaquero, the Taurus Gaucho or any of the SAA clones, you can run 200gr jacketed @ 1,100fps or 255gr lead @ 1,000fps as a steady diet without hurting anything.

That plus the Laramie's cost is why they ain't sellin' too well.
 
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