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I've tried three flavors of ammo in my single six and have my rear sight almost all the way to he right and consistently hit left. When sight was centered it was approx 3-4" left at 10 yards ,with the sight to the right it's 1-2" left. It does string vertically pretty good. Haven't tried the mag cylinder yet. I don't think it is me because my brother has the same 6.5" single six just blued. He's 22lr barrel doesn't group amazing but I shoot center with it. Now his mag cylinder is a friggin Lazer beam. I mean I put a cylinder in less than an inch group and about 1/2" below the bullseye. It kinda looks like that sight is canted to the right a bit Hard to get a good bead down the barrel with glare to see exactly how much. I had a gp100 with the same issue and sent it in and it came back on the money. I know the pics suck but what do you guys think? Canted? Think I may send it in. Worst case I'm out 30 bucks shipping. The last pic shows it the best. Struggled with my cell phone to center things.

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It looks a bit chanted to me but hard to tell with the rear sight lined up in the pics. Also I'm looking at it on my phone so small pictures.
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Yea it's tough to tell with the round barrel. My gp was much clearer since the top of the barrel was flat . I should grab a straight edge from work tomorrow if I remember
 
Why do you think it will cost $30.00 for shipping? Call Ruger and tell them what kind of problem you're having with it and they'll send you a shipper that you can take to a UPS facility and it ships back to them for free. By the way ask them which UPS facility that you should use in your area as they have specific ones that they use for shipping.
 
Howdy

Nice woodworking bench.

To my eye, the biggest photo is the best in focus, and the sight does not appear to be leaning, it appears to be straight up and down.

I know you don't think it is technique, but allow me to ask you one question.

How do you place your finger on the trigger?

Many shooters put the trigger in the crease under the first knuckle, because this feels the most comfortable.

Right handed shooters who use this technique usually push their shots to the left.

The best technique for shooting a revolver is to place the trigger on the pad of the finger, directly under the fingernail. This allows the shooter to pull the trigger more straight back than if the trigger is in the crease.

I know you said you shoot dead nuts with all the other pistols, but I'll bet you a donut they all have the rear sight pushed over to the right. That has been the case with every used revolver with adjustable sights I have ever bought. Shooters push the rear sight over to make up for not-so- great trigger technique.

Anyway, that's my opinion.

Worth what you paid for it.
 
If you draw a line up from the grip frame and trigger guard it does appear canted to me. Call Ruger, email them a pic, and they will likely pay for shipping. They did for me on an unrelated issue a few months back.
 
Bones741

I'm with Driftwood in that your front sight doesn't look like it's canted from the photos you have posted.

One way to check for eye dominance is to pick on object on a wall about 20 or more feet away. Take your hands and make a circle around the object while stretching out your arms. Now keeping the object in view through the circle your hands have made, slowly bring your hands back toward your face. Whichever eye your hands go to should be your dominant eye. Hope this helps.
 
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Howdy

Nice woodworking bench.

To my eye, the biggest photo is the best in focus, and the sight does not appear to be leaning, it appears to be straight up and down.

I know you don't think it is technique, but allow me to ask you one question.

How do you place your finger on the trigger?

Many shooters put the trigger in the crease under the first knuckle, because this feels the most comfortable.

Right handed shooters who use this technique usually push their shots to the left.

The best technique for shooting a revolver is to place the trigger on the pad of the finger, directly under the fingernail. This allows the shooter to pull the trigger more straight back than if the trigger is in the crease.

I know you said you shoot dead nuts with all the other pistols, but I'll bet you a donut they all have the rear sight pushed over to the right. That has been the case with every used revolver with adjustable sights I have ever bought. Shooters push the rear sight over to make up for not-so- great trigger technique.

Anyway, that's my opinion.

Worth what you paid for it.
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My other Blackhawks sights are centered. I do use the center of the pad of my trigger finger. I did try a slightly tighter and looser grip to see if that helped when I shot last and it didn't make a difference in regards to left and right. Too tight of a grip did open my the group's up though. And if it matters I do shoot pinky under.

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Bones741

I'm with Driftwood in that your front sight doesn't look like it's canted from the photos you have posted.

One way to check for eye dominance is to pick on object on a wall about 20 or more feet away. Take your hands and make a circle around the object while stretching out your arms. Now keeping the object in view through the circle your hands have made, slowly bring your hands back toward your face. Whichever eye your hands go to should be your dominant eye. Hope this helps.
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Right eye without a doubt, also have tried the point your finger and close one eye at a time trick. Your method is easier :thumbup:

I'ma bring my straight edge home from work today, and have my old man put his eyes on it too, I swear he's got a level built into his noggin. I'd do some dry fire runs to sight if the sights moves left, but always been taught never dry fire a rim fire.
 
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Bones741

Use some small, plastic hollow wall anchors so you can dry fire you rimfire guns without damaging the firing pin. They fit a .22 chamber perfectly and are very inexpensive. Just remember to occasionally rotate the anchors so they're not always getting struck in the same place on the rim.

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bannockburn said:
Bones741

Use some small, plastic hollow wall anchors so you can dry fire you rimfire guns without damaging the firing pin. They fit a .22 chamber perfectly and are very inexpensive. Just remember to occasionally rotate the anchors so they're not always getting struck in the same place on the rim.

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That's a great idea! Thanks
 
Howdy Again

OK, you are using good trigger technique.

Look on page 16 of your owners manual. It clearly states Ruger New Model Single Six revolvers can be dry fired without damaging the firing pin. I wouldn't do it all day long, because metal fatigue might set in, but a few times isn't going to hurt anything.

This Three Screw Single Six was made in 1961. Notice where the impact of the firing pin is. If a round is not in the chamber, the firing pin will not strike the cylinder.

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Driftwood Johnson said:
Howdy Again

OK, you are using good trigger technique.

Look on page 16 of your owners manual. It clearly states Ruger New Model Single Six revolvers can be dry fired without damaging the firing pin. I wouldn't do it all day long, because metal fatigue might set in, but a few times isn't going to hurt anything.

This Three Screw Single Six was made in 1961. Notice where the impact of the firing pin is. If a round is not in the chamber, the firing pin will not strike the cylinder.

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I'll grab some pics when I get home. But I also noticed some dimples on the cylinder face from what looks like the firing pin. I bought the gun second hand. The cylinder recesses had ALOT of build up in them. I cleaned the gun before shooting it for the first time, and some rounds where a bit tough to slide in the cylinder . I chalked it up to not cleaning them good enough, but they felt the same the next time I took the gun out after cleaning it again few weeks ago. I don't think the mag cylinder has ever been used it is squeaky clean.
 
Ok so I brought my micrometer and straight edge home. Holding it tight along the frame,hooking the straight edge below the sight, staying just under the mounting pin as it goes along the frame I measured the distance between the straight edge to the front sight. I did the same thing on the other side using the same side of the straight edge to rule out variences and had the same amount of over hang front to back. My measurements :

.2455" for the right
.2780 for the left

So the front sight .0325" towards the right in relation ship to the frame. Give or take a little. For human error. I did have my dad eye ball it too when we got home and he says it definitely leans right. Dropping it off at the LGS tomorrow afternoon to ship out

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Here's the dimples on the cylinder I was talking about, some of the recesses look oblong too. Like I said I have never dry fired this gun, but looks like someone has in the past. KIMG1045.JPG
 
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The dimples on your cylinder have nothing to do with your firing pin; they are in the wrong "bolt circle" for the firing pin to have caused them. Whatever did is unknown, and has nothing to do with your sights. Your other measurements are simply inconclusive, since there is no guarantee that the barrel's bore is concentric with what you have measured. Will be interesting to see what Ruger has to say, in spite of their rather generic comments once you have received their repaired (I hope) solution to your problem. I have a Single-Ten which has a couple of "dimples" like yours, but I know that the firing pin had nothing to do with them. I (quietly) suspect that it is a Ruger assembly ID.
 
Englishmn said:
Someone managed to drop the hammer with the cylinder out of time.
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The ones on the edge of the cylinders make sense, the ones In The center, not so much.:confused: . Will have to see what Ruger says. Im thinking beag_nut is right about them giving generic details of what was done repair wise. Which that's fine as long as it's right and I can out my groups back on center without the sight maxed to the right. Be nice if the accuracy improved as well.
 
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Ruger manuals state that all their revolvers are safe to dry fire and they’ve told me on the phone that even their 22 revolvers are safe to dry fire. I called because I didn’t trust the manual.

I’ve dry fired the heck out of an sp101 22 and a single six hunter 22 with no issues at all, after talking with them.
 
SteadyD said:
Ruger manuals state that all their revolvers are safe to dry fire and they’ve told me on the phone that even their 22 revolvers are safe to dry fire. I called because I didn’t trust the manual.

I’ve dry fired the heck out of an sp101 22 and a single six hunter 22 with no issues at all, after talking with them.
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Your hunter have any dimples like mine?
 
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