Six days of pistolsmithing in Arkansas...Class pics!!

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Bob Rodgers

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I just finished one of the longest weeks of my life. Seven would-be pistolsmiths pushed aside their lives and journeyed to Arkansas for a five, (later changed to six) day class on building their very own 1911 pistols.

Lesson plans were written, workbenches built, vises and lights installed, work stools set in place, special tools made, parts ordered. I was as ready as I could be.

Class was to begin at 8:00 AM sharp on Monday, but some of the students swung by the shop late on Sunday afternoon to drop off their tools and get the lay of the land.

I expected long hours at the bench during the week, I’m not sure they did. Skill levels varied, of course. Two were women, four of the seven had never touched a file to a piece of steel. Five of seven had never touched a file to gunmetal. Pre-class practice was, of course, non-existent. Every student is a hardcore member of the Southern Exposure shooting school in Florida. They wear the badge of “window-licker” proudly and intended to keep the tradition alive and well in Arkansas. They did.

Instruction was mostly by demo. I showed what was expected and involved in fitting a part, they returned to their benches, and my helper and I then ran around the room putting out fires and trying to solve problems.

The end of Day 1 found us about 4 hours behind my targeted schedule, so Day 2 started an hour earlier and we stayed at it for a full 12 hours. That remained the schedule for the rest of the “Longest Week.” Gunsmith fit Kart barrels were finally in, linked, and timed, grip safeties were fit and blended, the work continued…

All seven pistols were test-fired for function and front sight regulation on Friday morning. None puked. Zip, zero, nada. Amazing! The best group was turned in by a female shooter, .881” center to center, 5 rounds of BLAZER, at 25 yards. DO NOT get in a gunfight with her.

Day 6 was added at the student’s request with the time to be spent on cosmetics. One student had prior commitments and pulled out on Friday.
Don’t tell ‘em I said so, but I’m really proud of this crew. They worked long and hard and in my opinion turned out remarkable guns for their first attempt. And don’t get the wrong idea. Even among all the industry there was still plenty of time for joking around and bouncing filthy language off the walls of the shop.

What can you do in 5 or 6 days of intensity? Scroll on down to see the finished product. Only 5 of the 7 are shown. Two are already on their way home.

The classroom and some shots of the REAL stars of this thread:

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One of the guys asked me to post this shot of the outrageously over-sized parts they were required to fit in class. :eek:


Actually, I made up several of these larger-than-life models so everyone could easily see the areas to be fit and/or adjusted. The double ended extractor is a new super secret design. Break a claw, turn it around. :)

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So where is the rest of the gun that those oversize parts fit into? Have you made up the reloading dies yet? :D

Sounds like there were 7 very lucky people who learned quite a bit from a master.
 
Hey Bob,
Utterly fantastic!
The guns that resulted from this class put the 'semi-customs' to shame.
Most here know the companies that I'm referring to; LB, W, B, N etc.
The cosmetics surpass the large majority of the 'custom builders' as well.
And this result from rank amatuers in ONE week!!!
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What is surprising is the lack of response to this post. I can only guess that the 'resident experts' here are intimidated by the high quality of the work.
I've noticed that the same guys NEVER post ANY pics of their work.
I'd take the silence as a compliment. You got them feeling small.......
You building a 1911 of your quality is one thing, your ability to direct 7 students to build top quality pistols in a short time frame is another.
Top shelf work is the direct result of HARD work, intensity and desire. I suspect that these features are sadly lacking in most 'smiffs'.
Keep raising the bar my friend. You have impressed the true 'experts'.
:)
 
Very impressive work...... so what's the cost of the class? I would assume that you get to keep your class work? I know if you have to ask the cost your probably can’t afford it!
 
For those who'd like to build a 1911, but can't commit to the travel, there's at least one online option...
http://www.1911patriotcop.us/class.htm

12weeks + $2400. This online class has a 5yr track record and is already full for 2008. Found it via google and there may be others.
 
For those who'd like to build a 1911, but can't commit to the travel, there's at least one online option...

Most of the images and pages on that site don't work - especially the photos page, which couldn't be found.

So what is it about this guy's guns that make them worth 3500 - especially when you build it yourself? What can you add to a Caspian frame and slide that's worth another almost 3000 dollars? With pictures, I might be able to judge.

And students were dropped out after paying for the course because they couldn't keep up? With an online class?

I would happily pay 2500, take a week's vacation, and travel to Arkansas... of course I live about 20 miles from Arkansas so that helps. I just can't imagine what would convince someone to pay 2500 for an online course. I can find plenty of online instruction on how to build a gun. I'd like the advantage of having an expert looking over my shoulder.
 
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