"Six seconds from safety"
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(520 ILCS 5/1.2b‑1) (from Ch. 61, par. 1.2b‑1)
Sec. 1.2b‑1. Case. Case means a container specifically designed for the purpose of housing a gun or bow and arrow device which completely encloses such gun or bow and arrow device by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied or otherwise fastened with no portion of the gun or bow and arrow device exposed.
Sec. 1.2b‑1. Case. Case means a container specifically designed for the purpose of housing a gun or bow and arrow device which completely encloses such gun or bow and arrow device by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied or otherwise fastened with no portion of the gun or bow and arrow device exposed.
IMO, fanny packing is better than no packing in many cases, if the criminal justice system in Illinois actually followed the law as it is clearly written.
The plain facts are that a fair number of people have been arrested for violating the UUW act while doing nothing illegal. AFAIK, all the cases were eventually dismissed. In the meantime, you spend thousands or tens of thousands of dollars on dealing with the problem, and it may take years to resolve. And after the fact, it will not have changed anything.
I don't know how it is in other states, but in Illinois it is almost as if the system is deliberately stacked against anyone who is actually innocent. Hundreds, maybe thousands of people were convicted in Chicago and some suburbs over the years and the courts, the police, and the prosecution teams all knew the cases against them were either completely fabricated, or at best dubious. Granted some of them probably actually committed the crimes, and others were losers anyway, but the point is they never had a fair chance in court. You won't get one either.
Fortunately, the system tends to screen out most of the poor cases up front, but if you get to court, expect the judge and the SA to do whatever they can to put you away. It does not really matter if you did it or not. Stay out of court. There is rarely justice to be found there for the innocent. Ironically, the criminal justice system in Illinois is very favorable toward the truly guilty.
The plain facts are that a fair number of people have been arrested for violating the UUW act while doing nothing illegal. AFAIK, all the cases were eventually dismissed. In the meantime, you spend thousands or tens of thousands of dollars on dealing with the problem, and it may take years to resolve. And after the fact, it will not have changed anything.
I don't know how it is in other states, but in Illinois it is almost as if the system is deliberately stacked against anyone who is actually innocent. Hundreds, maybe thousands of people were convicted in Chicago and some suburbs over the years and the courts, the police, and the prosecution teams all knew the cases against them were either completely fabricated, or at best dubious. Granted some of them probably actually committed the crimes, and others were losers anyway, but the point is they never had a fair chance in court. You won't get one either.
Fortunately, the system tends to screen out most of the poor cases up front, but if you get to court, expect the judge and the SA to do whatever they can to put you away. It does not really matter if you did it or not. Stay out of court. There is rarely justice to be found there for the innocent. Ironically, the criminal justice system in Illinois is very favorable toward the truly guilty.
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Not in Illinois. IIRC, at least one appeals court has rulling a locked glove box does not qualify as a case as defined in the UUW act. i can't see any reason they would accept a console.
No way in IL--however, a quick-access gun safe bolted down in the car should qualify as a case to my thinking--or I guess the question is must a 'case' be portable in IL to be a case?
No way in IL--however, a quick-access gun safe bolted down in the car should qualify as a case to my thinking--or I guess the question is must a 'case' be portable in IL to be a case?
The wildlife code has some specific descriptors to define a gun case.
One would think that the average cop would accept a locked metal box made for securing firearms as a legal case. But who knows. A guy with his gun locked up is a pretty safe arrest. Cops get the same number of brownie points in some parts of this state for nice safe arrests as they do for arrests of violent criminals.
One would hope the SA would give the cop a lecture on being an nitwit and toss such a case with a sincere apology, but I would not count on it. Once you are busted the system wants expensive pieces of you.
The guy is wanting facts to answer a legit question. Interjecting one's opinion doesn't address his question. If one is going to spout off something then they should prove facts, otherwise it's just one person's opinion which is clearly evident.
As long as you transport the firearm in a container as described 520 ILCS 5/1.2b‑1 which defines a case then you're good to go. Obviously no law is going to get so defined as to say the container has to be so big, so long, shaped just so and made by such and such material. As long as it meets the definition of 520 ILCS 5/1.2b‑1 then not to worry.
As long as you transport the firearm in a container as described 520 ILCS 5/1.2b‑1 which defines a case then you're good to go. Obviously no law is going to get so defined as to say the container has to be so big, so long, shaped just so and made by such and such material. As long as it meets the definition of 520 ILCS 5/1.2b‑1 then not to worry.
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And here's where I find out where IL and Virginia laws differ. Since we have concealed carry here in VA, I don't believe I can even carry an unloaded gun in a fanny pack because it's considered concealed carry and not "transporting" the gun. There are a few exemptions but they are so fuzzy and iffy I'm not going to try and push my luck.
I'll just have to stick to open carry for another few years then I'll get my permit to conceal at 21
Thanks everyone
I'll just have to stick to open carry for another few years then I'll get my permit to conceal at 21
Thanks everyone
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