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Skool bureaucrats shocked at HS shooting range

Discussion in 'Activism' started by AZRickD, Jan 6, 2008.

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  1. AZRickD

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    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1064706

    (Comments link at the bottom of the page)

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    Councilor Stephen J. Murphy
    Stephen.Murphy@cityofboston.gov

    City Council, Main Office
    City.Council@cityofboston.gov

    Jonathan D Pizzi, Principal
    Mailing Address: 95 G. Street
    South Boston Education Complex
    South Boston, MA 02127
    Phone: (617) 635-9865
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  2. hqmhqm

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    welcome to Massachusetts. Live free or here.
     
  3. ASM826

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    My son is on th JROTC marksmanship team. It teaches all the essential shooting skills, using air rifles. Accurate little rifles.

    As to the shocked questions, my answer is, it's teaching them the skills they are going to need on the battlefield in the coming wars America will have to fight.

    I don't know what those wars will be, but inevitably we will fight them. And if we keep raising them the way Boston wants, we'll lose them.:banghead:
     
  4. taliv

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    when i was in JROTC (mid-80s, Alabama), we used real rifles in our school's basement.
     
  5. Hoppy590

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    worth repeating...
     
  6. Old Fuff

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    Perhaps among other things, this bunch should be informed that air rifle (and pistol) shooting is a recognized Olympic sport.

    If this crowd of misfits had been in charge back in 1776 we'd still be living under the Union Jack. :cuss: :banghead:
     
  7. AZRickD

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    I hope y'all have sent your comments to the addresses noted above.

    Remember, this forum is not an echo chamber.

    Rick
     
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    I wish we had JROTC at my high school. I don't think we do. But I also wish we could have a rifle shooting team:(
     
  9. Ditto_95

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    "welcome to Massachusetts. Live free or here."
    Exactly who will protect the USA borders?
    Exactly who will serve in our military?
    Exactly who will we rely on to help when there is trouble threatening the US?
    Our ROTC cadets, that's who.
    These young men and women are the future leaders of our military. They feel compelled to start now and I applaud them.
     
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    Idea: When you send your supportive e-mail, ask them if they need any supplies or coaching for their future olympians?
     
  11. AZRickD

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    Here's the Arizona Junior High Power Rifle Team that went to Camp Perry in 2007.

    I think I'll send them this pic as well.

    Should be enough to make those dues-paying NEA members soil themselves.

    [​IMG]
     
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    When I was in JROTC at Ben Lomond HS we used a shooting range in the basement too.
     
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    It seems that the school, and school system are very supportive of the shooting team. It is the city councilmen and other civic leaders who are shocked and need convincing.

    My concern is how these 2 young men were allowed to shoot unsupervised. Did school officials not supervise them adequately or did the students knowingly violate established rules.

    This is a good example of why we need to be careful of our actions. Others are just waiting for something to use against us.
     
  14. Blackfork

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    Nice photo of the Arizona Team.

    Just remember: Those kids TOUCHING those rifles is a felony in California......and that's what they have planned for all of us, everywhere.
     
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    Edit: Oops just realized you meant the AR's in the posted picture... Sidebar: In California it's illegal (a felony in fact) for a minor to touch a rifle even if that minor is under the supervision of an adult? Wow....

    They are shooting Daisy AIR Rifles...

    Also it does not give the age of the "kids" in question, the could have been 18 if that's an issue in Mass as well.

    We used .22's in my JROTC program in Killeen, in an actual range attached to the the High School.

    I also loved how the parallel was drawn in the article between crime and guns as if guns cause the crime and not the lack of adult participation in the development of young people in the inner city. If knowing how to use a rifle causes youth to turn to crime then we have huge problem in the making when all of the 18 and 19 years old soldiers return from overseas.
     
  16. AZRickD

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    I've often been exposed to people who are so cautious that they can't bring themselves to act... ever.

    Having read the article a second time, given the angst of the antis in that article, the weight of the activism is toward supporting the mere concept of firearms training. "Proper supervision" whatever that is, is a sideshow.

    This forum is for action. Take it. Or not.

    Rick
     
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    highschool rifle teams

    I came from Malden Mass a suburb of boston.we had a range in the attic(the school was granate block and 3 stories high)10 position and the mecanical drawing teacher was instuctor.80 boys and 40 girls.we shot the william randolf
    Hearst postal matches and won or second every yr.gov guns and ammo.52 win.shot against other schools.I am going to see if I cant get the NRA to list the clubs which include legion and church schools and colleges.what this country has come to!! :uhoh::confused: :banghead:
     
  18. AZRickD

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    The girl in the middle?

    She set a school record (as a freshman) at Texas Christian last year.
     
  19. Grump

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    When I was briefly in Army ROTC at BYU, there was NOT a range at the combined USA/USAF ROTC building, though there was reportedly space "planned" for one "someday". I think it was supposed to extend under the parking lot...

    Anyway, you Ben Lomond boys & girls hosted a match one year and invited us, Highland High (still had their own range before, IIRC, ventilation problems shut it down), the Yutes Navy people, and who knows who else.

    We trounced your butts!!!:neener:

    Our fearless leader and best shot on the team was Steve Badger, the man who was killed by a mental case named Kreutzer at Ft. Bragg in 1995 (the sicko who opened up on the troops as they assembled for PT in the early morning). Specific warnings were ignored, one died, one was paralyzed, the prosecution was botched, and the death sentence was overturned.

    He (Badger) was a leader of men, and led the charge up the hill--unarmed--to save his troops. If you want more men like him in this country, keep the rifle ranges OPEN! Kreutzer was evil and clever, and could have done his crimes in probably any country in the world, regardless of local "gun laws".
     
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    That's great to teach kids how to shoot, as far as the Bureaucrats go they would like to take all our guns. This is what Texas A&M came up with :

    The following is the 2007 winning entry from an annual contest at Texas

    A&M University calling for the most appropriate definition of a

    contemporary term.


    This year's term: "Political Correctness".


    "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical,

    liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,

    which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up

    a turd by the clean end."
     
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    IT's not a felony for a minor to touch a rifle in California. You all know better.

    Why isn't anyone noting that these are AIR rifles...i.e. not weapons at all. THey shoot pellets or BBs.

    And it's JROTC. These are not the future leaders of the military...JROTC is akin to the boy scouts. It fosters citizenship and duty. IT has nothing to do with training soldiers (you can cynically say it pushes kids to enlist, but thats another story, and it deals with activity AFTER JROTC). Let's not confuse ROTC with JROTC because of the similar names. That said, no one complains about the Y shooting BB guns at summer camp, etc... then again, maybe the areas of schools with schoolboards that have knee jerk problems with these things don't have a YMCA or kids that go to summercamp.

    I'll also wonder if there'd be an outcry for archery practice? There wouldnt be an outcry for actual Rifle Marksmanship (i.e. non-air rifle) in most areas of the country. Culture. Ignorance. Ghetto-"guns bad." Hicktown-"gun's a gun, car's a car"
     
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    I just realized how out of touch the ghetto is. Not only are they clueless about guns...but now there is sheer ignorance of simple DAISY BB GUNS. They must think A Christmas Story on TV every year is an evil, evil piece of propaganda. You'll shoot your eye out kid!
     
  23. .38 Special

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    Well, minors may not own "assault rifles" in California, and loaning an "assault rifle" to anyone in California is a felony. Loaning one to a minor carries "enhancements".

    I can understand how a Texan would have a hard time believing California gun laws, though, so don't feel bad!
     
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    WOW! I'm in MCJROTC and we just clear out the gym and shoot in there. These A$$holes would flip their effin wigs if they knew that.
     
  25. alsaqr

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    "Shocked city councilors are probing how school officials have allowed a Southie classroom to be used as a firing range by Junior ROTC students.

    Education and public safety leaders were stunned to hear that a basement classroom in Monument High School on G Street is used by the military group to teach teenagers how to fire air rifles at targets."

    Wow!!! The sheep herders are shocked-how quaint.
     
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