SKS. Difference in Yugo and Romanian?

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All of the Wolf I've ever used is non-corrosive. I wish I had more, I would PLOW through it with the Yugo I just Tapcoed out. And honestly, I think you would have to do a lot of shooting over a long period of time to do any damage that would be easily noticeable in the performance of the rifle.
 
The primary weight difference between a Yugo, and any other SKS, is in the wood used for the stock. Yugoslavian weapons use a native teak wood, which is heavier than even the laminated stocks of the Russians.

Do you own a Yugo? They are front! heavy, not butt heavy. This is directly attributable to the thicker barrel, and, in a small part, to the grenade launcher attached to the end of the muzzle.
 
I just dropped my Yugo into a fiberglass stock and while there was a noticeable decrease in weight, it was not as much as I would think it was if the stock was the culprit for the rifle's weight.
 
Don't know if it has been said yet, but:

Wolf ammo and other new-mafg cheapo ammo is not corrosive. You're surplus ammo from the Com-Bloc, however, is corrosive in most instances.
 
So if I use non-corrosive ammo...performance in the yugo and romanian is about the same?
 
Do you own a Yugo? They are front! heavy, not butt heavy. This is directly attributable to the thicker barrel, and, in a small part, to the grenade launcher attached to the end of the muzzle.

Try referring to post 23. The rest of it.

The barrel of the Model 59/66 is no appreciable amount heavier than any other SKS rifle. Yes, the grenade launcher adds several OUNCES to the weight, including the attendant gas control gear.

Once you've read my entire post, you'll note that I have a Model 59. That's the Yugo SKS without the grenade launcher. It's still heavier than a standard Romanian, Russian, or Albanian SKS. It's not that mythical "heavy barrel" at all, it's the teak stock.

Again, the Russian, Romanian, and Albanian SKS rifles saw little to no use whatsoever. They have been srored since production. The Yugo SKS rifles were used in the late unpleasantness of Kosovo, and it's surroundings. They show it in the form of corrosion, step-crowning, and general wear. There are those offered in virtually new condition, but the prices reflect it.
 
JR47: "Again, the Russian, Romanian, and Albanian SKS rifles saw little to no use whatsoever."

Some of the Romanians saw quite a bit of use, both in training and in the Revolution of 1989.

Escu: "Ceaucescu!"
Eanu: "Gezundheit!"

At least one THR member appears somewhere in at least one of these clips of the fighting. Good shots of PSL, SKS and AK-patterns, as well as Tokarevs and a few others:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4xkYr-YNxo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGQnc80S2wM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrk_0v48_vE

On Christmas morning, 1989, President Nicolai Ceaucescu and his wife Elena were summarily executed for crimes against the people of Romania. Any would-be socialist dictator would do well to ponder this episode and to learn from it.
 
Some of the Romanians saw quite a bit of use, both in training and in the Revolution of 1989.

As the regular Romanian forces were equipped with the AK47/74 rifles, the use of SKS rifles would have been relegated mostly to irregulars. They would have been obtained in fairly small numbers, compared with the overall stocks, and their use would have precluded their return to storage, as I doubt that many of the participants would have seen the necessity of returning them to the depots. Rather, they are probably buried in preservatives in the forests.

The total numbers of Yugoslav SKS rifles used during the dissolution of the Republic was much higher, with fewer remaining unused stocks of rifles. The Yugoslavian military turned them over in large numbers to the Serbian irregular forces, and they were in use for most of a decade. That is born out by the reports of problems involving corrosion, and the gas leakage resulting from it in the cut-off for the launcher. The presence of step-crowns also indicated prior usage. The other SKS rifles rarely, if ever have a step-crown performed upon them. That was almost solely the Mosin nagant rifles.
 
Two years ago, a batch of Yugo's came in to the shop, completely covered in cosmoline, with names and towns carved in the stocks in Serbo-Croatian. One of the batch looked a little better than the rest; it was a numbers matching, unissued, pristine rifle, complete with bayonet (often missing) and nightsights. I globbed the cosmo back on and immediately bought it for the low low price of $149! :neener:

It's accurate and reliable, and built so durable it'll be around long after we're gone. I'm a BIG fan of the Yugo SKS. Haven't touched my Norinco since.
 
Ultimately, though, Romania makes some damn fine guns. They only get a bad name because Century is their primary importer and they modify the guns in-house. If you get an unaltered Romanian gun, you're going to get an accurate and reliable shooter. Romania has always been a cut above almost all the former Combloc nations.
 
How do I recognize the difference?

I posted earlier today about how to tell the difference among SKS's with regard to origin and year of manufacture, and drew few responses. I appreciate the comparisons in this thread but have to ask

How do I tell the difference among these rifles by looking?

Probably picking one up this weekend so any help at all would be most useful! Thanks!

-Plink
 
On my Romy right of the barrel has made in Romania. Chicom Norinco will have chinese characters on the left side of receiver.
 
JR47: "As the regular Romanian forces were equipped with the AK47/74 rifles, the use of SKS rifles would have been relegated mostly to irregulars. They would have been obtained in fairly small numbers, compared with the overall stocks, and their use would have precluded their return to storage, as I doubt that many of the participants would have seen the necessity of returning them to the depots. Rather, they are probably buried in preservatives in the forests."

No doubt, though some issued rifles did make their way here. My '59 Cugir has a lot of honest wear, probably from training exercises over the years.

Keep in mind that the army was far from the only armed force involved in the Christmas '89 festivities; the Sekuritate and regular police got some game time, too, as did trade unionists, journalists, ordinary citizens and foreign adventurers.

Those SKS rifles which saw field use in the Subcarpathians and along the Timisoara Road during the freakiest Christmas in living memory repose in their Wallachian/Transylvanian hides, for such time as the next mad Count or Commissar finally goes completely over the top.

Mike the Wolf, I agree -- for all his crimes, Ceaucescu and his colleagues did some fine work in guns and wines. Pity the wines were allowed to deteriorate after 1989 (1995 was the last really decent batch of Dealul Mare Cabernet); but the guns remain.
 
The issue of chrome lined versus non-lined is important exactly because of the fact that most of these rifles saw use. The fact that you intend to use non-corrosive ammo from now on is irrelevant if the rifle you want to buy already popped decades worth of mercuric primers.

If you somehow have access to unissued rifles, than see which SKS you like better for whatever reason. Both Yugos and Romanians are very good quality. If the Yugo you want to buy is well used, like most of them, check the bore and--especially--the gas cutoff (more than a few single-shot Yugos out there).
 
Serial #'s, engravings?

Wondering how to determine from the engravings what I'm looking at when I see one.

Thanks!

-Plink
 
I like my Norinco Type 56 20" alot more than yugos mainly because of the weight advantage, and no gas valve. I would probably want a romanian over a yugo though..
 
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