SKS

[sureshot]

Hey well I decided that I'm going to buy and SKS and fit it with a nice Monte Carlo stock. I still have some questions though. Are the accuracy issues a founded problem or are they just a load of malarky. If not how bad would groupings be. Also what is the best scope mount out there for an SKS?, I've been looking around and there are alot of complaints about having to mill down purchased mounts. Lastly, should I buy a refurbished rifle or a non refurb? Will there be a difference in how well the rifle shoots?.

 

[briansmithwins]

Most SKSs are 2-3 MOA rifles.

The best scope mount for the SKS is an AK with a side rail. Seriously, there are lots of problems with SKSs and optics. The best scope set up is the side rail type that is screwed or riveted to the receiver. The problem with those is your scope needs to be really short or the ejecting brass will beat the carp out of it. The receiver cover mounts are junk, but lottery tickets instead.

As with most things, if the crown os good the rifle should shoot ok. If some goober has dinged the crown by cleaning from the muzzle w/o a protector, refurb status doesn't matter.

BSW

 

[jonnyc]

"Most SKSs are 2-3 MOA rifles."

Maybe, but most shooters can only get them to do 4-5 MOA.

 

[sureshot]

Are surplus rounds all corrosive and are they suitable got plinking/ sighting in or will they eat through a barrel

 

[briansmithwins]

Are surplus rounds all corrosive and are they suitable got plinking/ sighting in or will they eat through a barrel

Real east bloc surplussed ammo is likely to be old and corrosive. There is a lot of new manufactured 7.62x39 ammo that isn't corrosive.

If you clean the rifle properly (with water) there isn't any problem with shooting it. Also, the hardchromed bore will be the last thing corrosive primer residue will eat. The gas system corroding out will render the rifle non-functional before the chromed bore goes.

BSW

 

[oldbanjo]

I love my SKS, I've shot Deer and Turtles with it. I wouldn't have one with a scope. I shot a running Deer with mine, with a scope I would have never found him. One shot kills, the furtherest was 65 yds. When back lighted my sights glow, I used the material off of clock hands.

 

[lt762x39]

The SKS was and is not a sniper rifle. It was made to be accurate enough to hit a man sized target. And that my friend it will do. If you need a scope there are several out there for that purpose. Like the others mentioned there is a problem with brass beating the crap out of the scope. They make a brass deflector for that problem. If you still want a scope you could go with a scout rifle set up where you use a long relief scope like a hand gun scope. J & G gun sales here in AZ has a set up but it requires some hand fitting. ( as do most ) unless you buy some rail and drill and tap holes in your reciever cover to mount the scope rail. http://www.jgsales.com/product_info...pe-mount-combo-/cPath/203_212/products_id/423 The advantage of the set up with the J&G set up is you can still use your iron sites if need be. Hope this helps ya out...

 

[sureshot]

Ok so forgett the scope how much of a pain in the arse is changing the stock Ive heard that there is a pin in the handquard that makes taking it off to be replaced by the synthetic one a pain. I'm thinking that a carbine stock by tapco would suit my needs more than a Monte Carlo stock I'm going to be shooting deer, coyotes, maybe a lynx/ bobcat, and paper. I hunt in the southwestern BC were the terrain changes from wide open fields and rolling hills to thick balsa pine to subalpin conditions I've never been made to take a shot over 100 yards other than when I'm target shooting. I need a rifle that CSM reliably make a vital shot on deer

 

[shiftyer1]

yes the pin is a pain unless you drill it out although if your going with tapco you can buy a gas tube with synthetic handgaurd already installed. I had to do alot of sanding to get the handguard to fit and also ruined the wood handguard trying to beat the pin out before I just drilled it out.

 

[Average Joe]

Mine is 4-5 moa with iron sights, don't even bother with a scope, it will never hold center.

 

[crazyivan]

I shot a yugo SKS with a non-chromed barrel. Does 2" 5 shot groups with brown bear.
Have no idea if the chrome barrel SKS are worse.

 

[memyselfandi]

Don't give up on the Monte Carlo stock. Just put one under my bro's. The only thing needing to be done was the fore grip guard needed to be fitted to the gas tube and removing the pin, no sweat. It looks good to. From the rescearch I've done the Choat (sic) mount that is drilled and tapped to the reciever.

 

[sureshot]

I like both the Monte Carlo stock and the t6 tapco stock with the telescopic buttstock the t6 platform just suits my needs more I like the option of having a stock that can fit me when I have a big jacket on as well as when I'm walking in the summer. As for a scope mount I'm going to see if this local gunsmith knows what to do because I've seen his work and he seems to know his stuff I would just buy a shorter scope so the carp doesn't get beaten outta it

 

[zhyla]

I don't quite see the point of putting a scope mount and different stock on an SKS. They're great guns, but if they don't do what you want out of the box wouldn't you be better off setting up something intended for hunting in the first place?

 

[sureshot]

The purpose of changing the stock is just so it's a more mobile rifle I'm a tall guy and am used of using guns with a longer length of pull I also want to buy a higher capacity for coyotes and plinking I would normally use my .303 for deer unless I had another rifle on me at the time.

 

[shootr]

Used to have an SKS and I found a recoil pad/LOP extender. Nothing fancy, just black rubber, but it extended the LOP maybe 1.5 inches and gave me a much better fit. Was inexpensive too.

WRT scope mounts - I never bothered, but always heard the receiver cover ones were poor. However, I watched a fellow at my club use just such a mount to very good effect on a 100 yard range during our sight-in days. We clusterd around the guy and watched him just hammer the 10-ring. None of us running the range had ever seen an SKS shoot so well and from that experience, I think not all those mounts are created equally. Some might indeed be very workable. No experience with the rail mount.

 

[briansmithwins]

Rail that can be used with SKS: http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/firear...ver-mount-and-mounting-rail-with-1-rings.html

You're going to need to drill and tap the receiver to install it. And you're still left with trying to find a short enough scope that the ejecting brass clears it.

BSW

 

[wnycollector]

Had a cheap NcStar 4x scope fitted to a dust cover mount on one of my sks' for ~10 years. The fit was so tight that the scope was not off by more than an 1" after I re-installed for the rifles bi-annual cleaning. I have since removed the dust cover mount and scope and opted for a Tech-sight. The Tech-sight was the best $45 I have ever spent on any of my rifles to increase accuracy. I regularly shoot clay birds off the back stop at my range at 120 yards with the sks/tech-sight combo. That type of accuracy is more than adequate for me. Here is a link to the tech-sights http://www.tech-sights.com/

 

[MTMilitiaman]

I have a Yugo SKS that will do 2 to 3 MOA with TechSights and WBB from the bench. I've shot numerous other SKS, including several Chinese and one Russian rifle that will all do about the same--none are worse than 4 MOA rifles if the shooter does his/her part.

I can't speak for the stock transition, although being 6'6" I can sympathize with the stocks being too short on some of the Eastern Block weapons. That's the whole reason I put the ACE folder on my AK.

Choate makes a really good scope mount for the SKS, but while solid, it does require drilling and tapping the receiver, and possibly some minor stock fitting. And it will probably keep you from using stripper clips.

There is also some scope mounts floating around that replace the rear sight. I was thinking that with TechSights and one of these rear-sight scope mounts, it would be possible to put a decent 2.5x EER scope on it and retain the use of both the iron sights and stripper clips. If I was to do anything to my Yugo, it would be something like that.

 

[sureshot]

I've found a peep sight that is designed for the sks I think I might go with this option
What do they do to the rifles when they refurb them is it worth buying a refurb over a non refurb

 

[surfinUSA]

Try the williams fire sight (front) and peep (rear). they are inexpensive easy to install and work especially at sks range.

 

[Shawn Dodson]

I recently saw an SKS with a beautiful green/black laminated Monte Carlo stock at the shooting range. The shooter had bought it from an estate sale and didn't have any information about the stock. An on-line search revealed nothing - bummer.

 

[ball3006]

If you take a stone stock SKS...

and modify it, you will greatly reduce it's value. If you want a bubba custom SKS, there are a bunch of them in the pawn shops around here.

I put a Williams apature rear sight on one of my SKS, old eyes, and it does a good job. No permanent modifications were needed and I can reinstall the stock rear sight in a few minutes. As the price of SKS rifles is closing in on the cheaper line of AKs, you might want to consider one of them. I have a single stack AK that I bought 10 years ago when they were the only game in town and it shoots just fine. It has the scope mount attached to the left sde of the receiver.....chris3

 

[Ignition Override]

Sureshot: If you buy an SKS and decide one day to sell it or trade, you might have more of a problem unless it is in the original configuration, because seasoned rifle shooters (who prefer military surplus rifles) usually want them left alone.

As for basic accuracy, at least one guy does not need a scope to hit metal gongs at 220 yards with his iron sight SKS or basic WASR AK, using both in a typical stance (no artificial support):

"hickok45" on Youtube.

 

[brandon_mcg]

i got the tapco intrafuse stock for norinco. put a cheap bsa red dot sight on it. got a 20 round mag which has significant feeding issues so i do not use it. I have hot had any reliability issues from the stock itself. it took some filing and fitting to get it to the perfect fit. good thing is you can quickly put the wood stock back on it if you decide to sell it or decide you dont like the second hand stock.