Sleepwalking unloading of Glock

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I think you might want to keep quiet about this, what with all the new laws about "mentally unstable" and all that.
 
Having corresponded w/ someone from the DPRK, I was a little surprised as they don't characterize themselves as hippies - not party members, anyway.
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kungfuhippie is a term coined on The Simpsons - The Poochie episode to be more specific. Where Homer voiced a cartoon dog on The Itchy and Scratchy Show.

I've used it since it-along with the rest of the song is a big contradiction;

"My names Poochie D and I rock the tele, I'm half Joe Camel and a third Fonzerelli, I'm the Kungfuhippie from Gangster City, I'm a Rapin' surfer..."

I'm what one might consider a right wing-realist-hippy (Libertarian). I'm all for peace and love, but I don't go for the free love mumbo jumbo and I realize that hugging trees and drum circles in the end accomplish nothing. That words are useful, but so are guns. 8 years later and i'm still recovering from the brainwashing I recieved in California public schools.
 
Jeff Cooper said that if you sleepwalk, don't keep a loaded gun handy.
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That sounds right to me. If you can unload the Glock, is there any reason to think that you couldn't open a lockbox? Not an argument - a question.

Mike
 
Sleepwalking has always creeped me out. The first time I actually saw it happen was while spending the night at a friends house after being kicked out of mine. It's about 3 a.m. and I'm watching tv because I can't sleep, and he comes downstairs NAKED, walks past me, goes into the kitchen, where he proceeds to turn on the stove and cook some ramen
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Did he at least share the Ramen with you since you had to watch him cook it naked?
 
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leepwalking has always creeped me out. The first time I actually saw it happen was while spending the night at a friends house after being kicked out of mine. It's about 3 a.m. and I'm watching tv because I can't sleep, and he comes downstairs NAKED, walks past me, goes into the kitchen, where he proceeds to turn on the stove and cook some ramen
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Did he at least share the Ramen with you since you had to watch him cook it naked?
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You actually believe he was sleeping? I think he has a crush on you.
 
Silly question: Would a alarm wake up a sleepwalker??
Just asking, because you could up a motion sensor at the bedroom door and when you walk through there, it would go off and wake you up.
I would however lock guns away, because it seem you are a bigger risk for yourself and family then a burglar!
 
I sleepwalked once when I was a kid. I still hear about it over 40 years later. The closest I've come in adult life was about 20 years ago, I sat up in bed, swung my legs around and planted my feet against my chest of drawers as if bracing against......something. I woke up while in this position and wondered WTH? If I continued to do crazy things like that I wouldn't leave a loaded gun around.
 
Realmswalker & KungFu - No, I didn't get any ramen, thanks for asking. I figured he WAS awake, until he stirred the soup in the pan with his hand and jumped. He actually had to burn his hand to wake up, and realize what had happened.

And for the record, I wasn't "watching". I went to ask what the hell he was doing, and when he burned himself I figured what was up.


Besides, he's not my type anyhow. :neener:
 
My mother used to sleepwalk when she was a kid. She has a story about her getting out of bed as a kid @ about 3am and walking down the street to her friends house - ringing the bell and asking if her friend could come out and play. Her friends father was not amused and luckly brought my 10 or 12 year old mom back to her parents house. To my great joy she has not passed this trait onto her children to any great extent. (i would'nt be shocked to see it in my kids thou.)

Now - I seem to recall reading somewhere that we cant read in our sleep. (I don't think I can) as it has to do with different sides of the brain. (reading, most colors, and some other stuff being seperated from the sleeping side of the brain)

So it would make sense to me that if you wanted to keep your sleeping self out of something that a simple combo lock would do the trick. Does anyone make a small gunsafe with a lighted combo lock? Maybe even a electronic gun safe would do the trick, but it seem that if you can operate a glock in your sleep (to the degree that you did) that you could do a push button safe.

Maybe a regular dial safe with a small LED light custom mounted above the dial for night-time access. I know I wouldn't be able to do a combo dial in my sleep. I have enough trouble with the thing during the day.

Anyway, good luck with it. & if you don't like the safe option, try switching to a mossy 500/590 with an empty chamber for night-time work. Racking those noisy things is enough to wake the dead. :what: (no pun intended)
 
My late grandfather had some episodes involving sleepwalking as a young adult, doing all sorts of relatively complicated things, such as preparing food and the like. The one episode I heard about a few times was when he woke up looking at a crow thorugh the kitchen window in the middle of the night. The window was open, he was sitting at the kitchen table holding a rifle, and he had a perfect sight picture, all he had to do was to pull the trigger. The rifle was stored unloaded, he had loaded it in his sleep. After that day, he made sure all ammo was kept under lock and key. Grandma kept the key - and grandpa did not know where she kept it.
 
I've seen my sister do a few trips through the house while asleep. Once watched her walk straight into a wall. My mom has a story of how my sis had gotten up, come into my mom's room, picked up the phone, and said "hello". My mom, of course, inquired as to what she was doing, to which she responded, in her teenager being hassled by mom voice, "What? I wasn't on the phone!! Leave me alone." Slammed the phone down, and went back to her room.
True story. My mom has no sense of humor and could not make that up.

I, on the other hand, don't have such issues, minus two instances. one was after I had a migraine when I was 10-11 or so. I took two excedrine (like the commercial said) an laid down for a nap. I awoke two rooms away, at teh sliding glass door to the patio. I've never taken excedrine since.

The other was after I started in the high-school marching band when I was in 8th grade. I was so worn out from practice at the end of a particular week, I was actually drumming in my sleep with my hands. Not slopping it, actually playing the music I'd been cramming into my head.

The human mind is indeed a terrible thing. :D
 
I have had a few mild instances of sleepwalking. Usually just before waking up. Once, I woke up while walking down the hallway.

Because of that, I never kept my guns loaded. I also went into the VA, who then sent me to their sleep clinic. I haven't had sleep problems since getting my CPAP. No worries now. And, I sleep so much better.
 
I have seen a few references to going to an MD and getting treatment. While I think this is good, be careful. One of the common sleep aids, I think it is Ambien, has been linked to more than a few episodes of people doing things in their sleep, like DRIVING.

I think a combination lock box might work. Or, you could go buy an electric fence charger and run a clip lead from it to your gun. Of course you'd want the magazine removed so that the jolt won't cause a ND. Or maybe you electrify the magazine instead.
 
glad i dont sleep walk. i just sleep talk. and i normaly wake up with my GF looking at me funny asking me *** im talking about.
 
Trybal,

Decocking a Glock involves pulling the trigger on an empty chamber, as otherwise a Glock normally sits @ half-cock. That's what keeps giving me the heebie-jeebies - I pulled the trigger in my sleep. I remember/dreamed pointing it in a safe direction as I did so - the shower floor - but I certainly can't verify that.

Reading up on somnambulism, it would seem the normal sleepwalker has no memory of the events that took place, whereas I distinctly remember unloading the weapon (albeit not topping off the mag). So I am unclear as to whether this was a true event of sleepwalking, or if I was having a bad dream (which keeps repeating), woke up & unloaded the Glock in the dark, & then went back to sleep (and the bad dream). That would explain the memory, & slightly lower the heebie-jeebie factor.

Gig 'em biggie,

backbencher
 
I talk in my sleep sometimes, don't really sleepwalk but I did say some crazy stuff in the past.


My wife on the other hand used to do it every night growing up and many times made it out to the barn and was brushing a horse on the crossties.

My personal favorite was when she went number 2 in the (pull-out) freezer. and then returned to bed. Not only did it ruin a bit of food she also had pretty bad frostbite down there. It took a while to figgure out exactly what happened at first, then it became all to clear.



As for tips, get medical help and lock it up.
 
I have slept walked into my master bath, totally thrashed it, knocked crap everywhere, busted a glass into the shower, and at the end of it, took a leak and went back to bed. The wife heard/watched the whole thing- we still have no idea why i ripped the bathroom apart. The good thing is I did not grab Mr. Blasty and poke holes in the house :what:
 
I had a similar problem some years ago during a period of intensive martial arts training. I'd dream I was fighting, and then wake up while slamming a fist into the bed with full force, a few inches from my partner's face. After I stopped training because of an injury, it took about a year for it to stop.

Perhaps the sound and effort of racking a shotgun would be more likely to wake you up? But I don't know if I'd count on that. You really don't want to be waking up to the sound of a gunshot. Whatever you do to keep this from recurring, do it now.
 
Fish,

16 ga? Use that much anymore? Shot my 1st squirrel w/ a 16 bolt action...

John,

Slept soundly last night w/ the unloaded Glock under the bed, magazine beside it, slide locked back. No assurances I CAN'T manipulate it asleep, as we've seen I topped off the mag two nights ago, but @ least the slide would clang pretty loudly. Well, I slept soundly 'til the nightmare woke me up @ 0730.

Gig 'em,

backbencher
 
Or, you could go buy an electric fence charger and run a clip lead from it to your gun. Of course you'd want the magazine removed so that the jolt won't cause a ND. Or maybe you electrify the magazine instead.
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Well if you’re going to go that far… you might as well put an invisible fence around your bed, and put on a shock collar before you fall asleep. Keep the gun outside the fence. :D

P.S. - If you wake up in the middle of the night with an urgent need to use the restroom, this solution might mean an AD (of the non-firearm kind). :eek:
 
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