Sling shot with wrist brace is illegal

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How can you outlaw something as simple as that anyway? You can make a perfectly functional wrist rocket by bending an aluminum rod into the shape you want and attaching the surgical tubing with a leather strap. It's an afternoon's project at most.
 
What's next, rubber band guns? There'll be a legislation regarding a one clothespin per month purchase to prevent criminals from building rubberband guns!:confused:
 
It's NY and MASS, what would you expect?!?! For those of you lucky enough to have never been to those places the laws (like this one) would baffle anyone!

I liked most of the people I meet in MASS but will never understand their politics.
 
There is a fairly decent book named Deathwatch (by Robb White) in which the main character makes good use of a sling-shot. Doubt anyone on here has read it but it gives a very graphic description of what someone can do to another person with one.


Holy cow! I thought that I was the only person who had ever read this book. I bought my first wrist-rocket immediately after reading it. (This was a couple of decades ago.)

Mac
 
As I said, it has been quite some time since I read it, but I seem to remember one part where the main character kills birds at a watering hole for food. I think that he chose to shoot pebbles since the birds were small and to save his lead shot for later. There's a nother part in which he buries himself in sand and uses the surgical tubing for breathing.

And, in order to keep the thread from drifting too far off, I note that it is illegal to take a slingshot onto LCRA property in Texas.

Mac
 
Remind me to tell ya about all the trouble I got into with a homemade Biblical-type sling....aka "Goatherd's Sling." Talk about a weapon of mass destruction! Talk about range! WOW!

Range- No kidding:evil: When I was 12 or 13, my cousin and I figured out how to make an effective sling using a kitchen garbage bag and some electrical tape. We had a good day of flinging 1" landscape pebbles 100 yards out into the lake. Now time to write my congresscritter to try to get a ban on garbage bags and electrical tape.:scrutiny: :p
 
Batons are illegal just to own, along with;
Slingshots
Blackjacks
Brass knuckles
Numchucks
Pepper Spray/Mace
Tasers
Knives with > 3" blades (illegal to carry)
As kids we used to go to the local weekend flea market to score most of the cool toys on the list with the exception of tazers/mace and the prominent inclusion of throwing stars.
 
Goatherd's Sling

CB...After reading the biblical instructions...we scrounged the crick for round, smooth stones. Found a bunch of'em too...ranged from about the size of a small bakin' potato to a fairly large potato. Kid who never got in trouble asks to try it one mornin' while we were whackin' a 55-gallon drum from about 75 yards. He winds up and lets fly...at about 90 degrees to the target. Medium potato-sized projectile arcs toward the house across the road at a range of also about 75 yards...goes through the picture window...skids across the coffee table, wipin' out the lady's antique China tea service, proudly on display...and straight into the new Zenith color TV.
Hadn't been for the cabinet doors bein' closed, the picture tube woulda been history. Doors busted like cheap veneer.

Of course there were witnesses. We paid dearly.:rolleyes:
 
On the Robb White story..,

I didn't read the book, but I did see the movie, on TV, years ago. I doubt it will be shown these days because it portrayed the bad guy as a grouchy old cripple who was, well, a grouchy old cripple.

No offense intended at Donny, who is a grouchy old cripple who keeps a blog of that name.

In the movie, I think the wrist-rocket was found in the gasoline tank at the service station.
 
Malone LaVeigh: Notice Dennis' doesn't have the dreaded evil wrist brace. Ah, those were simpler days. Expect to see politicians posing with those for the next election.
What are you talking about he is shown with "handgun replicas" and a felony improvised deadly weapon! I see 3 felonies in those picture! No wait that does not include the charges the parent faces, or the additional charges depending on his location while using them.
 
those slingshots are for sale everywhere in my city. My 9 year old has one. It's not really too powerful though, more of a "kiddie" wrist rocket.
 
Wrist brace - pshaww!
Yep, just as I suspected , some folks even learned to use a slingshot with a "crutch" around here. :p

I was raised right.
We made our own wooden slingshots from the fork of a tree. Red Inner tube rubber, leather for a pouch.

I learned to shoot, actually I had a knack with eye and hand coordination, and would fell moving targets with a slingshot. Might be a pest , might be a squirrel for dinner, even felled birds like doves moving roost to roost, doves in flight (come in handy later on using a shotgun, this "reading dove movements") or a duck in a pond.
A Grumbling Stomach makes one focus on target, and not what the tool for getting something on the table with.

Red Inner Tubes are no more. Adapt Overcome Improvise

Don't need a wrist brace,never owned one, don't recall ever using one, and don't want one - ones I still make - do not have them.
Concealed is Concealed and Redundancy is Good. What slingshot? , If the Slingshot "got into trouble" , "have a back-up, and another back-up and another 'back-up"...:p

Still use a sling-shot to assist in teaching shotgunning too, along with a BB gun. ;)
Ain't no beads on the sling-shots either *snicker*
Mice and Rats were always great moving targets with rocks. :)

I turned out all-right. :D

Steve
 
"ANY slingshot is a felony in NJ. Even a forked stick w/ a rubber band."

To me, this is an absolute outrage, a felony for a child's toy?

In all seriousness, has there been a substantial migration by common sense people out of states like NJ that are imposing these restrictions?

That statement of fact made me angry. Very angry.


Yes, as a matter of fact, people with common sense, eyes to see, ears to hear and wisdom to run are skeddadling in increasing numbers.


The story behind the felonization of slingshots in NJ likely to make you even angrier.

The deal was that the bill originally criminalized slUngshots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slungshot

Some idjit in the office of legislative services (the non partisan dept. of writing up bills) assumed that slungshot was a typo, and "corrected" the error.

The mistake has stood thus for decades, because no one in the NJ legislature feels motivated to correct it, and doing so expose anyone who tried to all sorts of PR and political liabilities.
 
When is NJ and NY gonna outlaw rocks? I mean they are deadly in the hands of youth (look at the West Bank and what the Palistinians do!!) And not only rocks (which are easly available and require no background check or waiting period) but STICKS! Yes, and those with limbs are known as assault STICKS! And switches!

Oh, my.... I've opened the whole can of worms on this. Hope no liberal is reading this.
 
Deaf Smith: When is NJ and NY gonna outlaw rocks? I mean they are deadly in the hands of youth (look at the West Bank and what the Palistinians do!!) And not only rocks (which are easly available and require no background check or waiting period) but STICKS! Yes, and those with limbs are known as assault STICKS! And switches!
I don't know about NJ but in CA sticks kept for the purpose or designed or intended to be used as weapons are considered a "billy" which is a felony to own or posses anywhere in the state, even in your home. In fact any blunt stick type item is considered a "Billy" and is possession of an illegal felony weapon. So a stick for use as a weapon, or a stick with a handle or something that shows facilitaion for use as a handle such as tape that shows it is for use as a handle is obvious and implied intent for use as a weapon and would be considered a "billy". Telling someone or a LEO a stick was for self defense would also qualify as satisfying the requirement for use as a "Billy", as would just about any blunt object you intend to use as a weapon:

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol, any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sandclub, sap, or sandbag.
(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
(3) Carries concealed upon his or her person any explosive substance, other than fixed ammunition.
(4) Carries concealed upon his or her person any dirk or dagger.

Violation of any of which is a FELONY

Notice there is many catch all phrases. Shuriken is any item like throwing knives or throwing stars. Billy is any blunt weapon used whether club, nightstick, etc Sap, slungshot,sandbag refer to any item filled with something heavy like a purse, bag, sock, etc for use as a weapon. Leaded cane means any cane made artificialy heavy by filling it with anything to increase it's weight whether lead or something else. Shobi-zue and cane sword mean any hidden blade item whatsoever. Any zip gun means any homemade item designed to fire ammunition. Basicly most things are covered in the fine print. This list includes things in your home, not just things carried but things within the state. All LEO are exempt.
 
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I don't know about NJ but in CA sticks kept for the purpose or designed or intended to be used as weapons are considered a "billy" which is a felony to own or posses anywhere in the state, even in your home. In fact any blunt stick type item is considered a "Billy" and is possession of an illegal felony weapon.

Interesting... when I lived in California I practiced Aikido, and we sometimes did weapons training. The weapons used were the bokken and jo, both fabricated from wood; the bokken has a handle. These are not unusual weapons for martial arts.

If it was a felony, well... the police officer who practiced with us didn't object.
 
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New Jersey laws are working. Look at the crime stats from Camden, Trenton, and Newark

That's what I keep pointing out every time I write another pointless letter to Lautenburg. So far, he ain't listenin'.

In California, would a Louisville Slugger be considered a "billy"? I think we might still be able to have one of those, without a permit, in NJ. :D
 
These are not unusual weapons for martial arts.

If it was a felony, well... the police officer who practiced with us didn't object.
Simply lucky. There is legal exceptions for specific carry to practice in martial arts, however what remains is that they are illegal in the home. It is one of those laws that does not make sense. However were you to use sucha weapon, especialy if on the street you would have quickly found out how illegal they were. They also practice with nunchaku in many dojos which are also specificly banned, as I enjoyed practicing with them myself and researched thier legality later. I was quite disappointed to learn something I enjoyed practicing with was illegal to even posses within the state. So much for useful training on that particular item? There is also the option of both felony and misdemeanor charges and depending on the situation, whether it was in the home or you were carrying it they can decide how to prosecute. Because it says "by no more than a year in county jail, or in the state prison "(which by definition requires a year or longer) it is saying misdemeanor or felony. You can find instance of prosecution of as both. For the bokken finding prosecutions was harder, but you can easily find sensei warning students that they are a felony in CA, and without a doubt subject to prosecution if you define a handle on them with either carving or lanyard tape etc. However they are a crime either way, simply not prosecuted often, probably because they would be very difficult to conceal, and are almost never seen outside of training. Ironicly the bokken is a fake wooden sword for use in practicing(even though they may not appear to be) and could be prosecuted as a billy, but an actual sword is legal in CA (where not otherwise prohibited like schools and colleges, or for street carry)

In California, would a Louisville Slugger be considered a "billy"? I think we might still be able to have one of those, without a permit, in NJ.
This would be allowed as it is a tool for a common sport. However it would be easy to prosecute if you do not also have at least a ball and perhaps a glove in your possession as well, especialy if you were to be obviously in public with just a bat. However sports equipment is a legal way to bypass the ban. However using the sports equipment for defense will still be necessary to prove in court. Blunt items however specificly for use as weapons is against the law. I imagine if a cop asked what it was for and your replied protection it would constitute possession of a billy based on intent. Whether they prosecute or take any action is less likely, but still up to descretion.
 
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California, would a Louisville Slugger be considered a "billy"? I think we might still be able to have one of those, without a permit, in NJ.

This would be allowed as it is a tool for a common sport. However it would be easy to prosecute if you do not also have at least a ball and perhaps a glove in your possession as well, especialy if you were to be obviously in public with just a bat. However sports equipment is a legal way to bypass the ban. However using the sports equipment for defense will still be necessary to prove in court. Blunt items however specificly for use as weapons is against the law. I imagine if a cop asked what it was for and your replied protection it would constitute possession of a billy based on intent. Whether they prosecute or take any action is less likely, but still up to descretion.

Even a baseball bat wouldn't fly if there was a ft of snow on the ground, unless you was a college student on the team, my son is on a college team and has gloves,bats, balls in the car as they just stopped pratice for Xmas break and will start up again next week. I still think if the bat was on the back seat and he hit the wrong rd ck, there would be ??s Cops seem to get nervous when looking at something that could hurt them.
 
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