slugs or buckshot for bear?

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The reason you would want to start with buckshot (in 00) for the first shell (which would be the last one you load) is because often it is more effective to fire into the dirt directly in front of the bear, if there is time, and by kicking up gravel in its face, it may turn and run.

Thus you have spared a bear with a nonlethal response.

The rest of your shells should definitely be slugs however, and you will then want to empty your cylinder into the bears face as fast as you can pump-load them.

No bear is going to die right away.

Your hope would be in turning it around, and maybe it will die before you do.

Because slugs or no slugs, it is probably going to swat the crapp out of out.

(Named for Thomas Crapper, who imported the first flush toilots into the USA.)
 
Lots of hunters in Russia use these Hexolits on big bear.

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Look scary.
That is made in one of the Baltic states like Latvia, Lithuania...... Many Russians do not like Americans it is likely "Kolya" want's you to die of horrible death by using this against Griz. You would be better off assuming fetal position and play dead.
 
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Do you use those Brenneke's out of a smooth bore? If so, how is the accuracy you're getting & the penetration? thanks,
 
NO PASS THROUGH. The slug completely disintegrated,
I not saying your a liar but maybe you didnt find the slug.

by using this against Griz. You would be better off assuming fetal position and play dead
those will penetrate an engine block. I doubted dupleks when I 1st saew them but this deer season I am going to give them a shot. Its a milled piiece of steel.
 
Years back, Park Munsey.....who at the time I believe had Alaskan Master Guide Lic. #1..... gave up his .375 H&H for a cut down Win. Model 12 loaded with 00 and slugs when after wounded Brown Bear close in the alder thickets...
 
Could a down side to the lathed steel slug be ricochet? I'm just thinking out loud but might a steel slug going 1600 ft/sec have a better chance at "skipping" of dirt or trees?
 
Could a down side to the lathed steel slug be ricochet? I'm just thinking out loud but might a steel slug going 1600 ft/sec have a better chance at "skipping" of dirt or trees?

The company says the slugs are designed to minimize the risk of ricochet, but they don't say how.
 
Those steel DDupleks Monolit solids would seem to work.

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Also, as said before, a full bore round ball cast of wheel weights has tremendous mass and can't really tumble.. they penetrate very well.
 
People have been killed with .22 short, too.....
not even close in a hypothetical, tongue in cheek comparison.
if it can penetrate your cars engine block, is 70mm, traveling 1600 fps its gonna smash bone and muscle of anything i in the woods or jungle anywhere.
 
I just picked up a piece of land in eastern NC.....about 50 acres. My wife and I were walking it a few months back when one of our neighbors confirmed there are a few bears living there as well. We flew up there for a few days so I had nothing on me. As we were walking out, I asked my wife what she'd do if one of those bears came walking down the trail at us..... needless to say, it was a real uneasy feeling. I've got a few 12 g. shotguns, but will probably opt for my GP100 6" on my hip while clearing it or cutting trails. I would rather have that pistol on my hip than a shotgun resting against my four wheeler when an angry bear decides to play chicken with me....
 
Dixie's Tri-Ball Buckshot round with a tight patterning load of three hard cast .60" 320 grain balls would be an excellent option for the smoothbore.
 
In Arizona the only time coyotes are an issue is when Children are left unattended or if they are rabid. I worry more about feral dogs and feral people.
 
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