"Smallbore" advice

[O_Blade_O]

Hello all,
just for fun i'd like to have a smallbore shotgun. I was thinking about a .410 bore, single shot, single barrel.
But as far as i know i never seen any .410 Slug cartridge. That said, what is the smallest bore that gets shotshells and slugshells...?

Oh, and sorry for the asking, maker and model would be appreciated because i have absolutely no clue about...

Thanks!!

 

[Deltaboy1984]

They make Slugs for the 410. Academy and Walmart carries them usually during Deer season.

 

[8830]

I see you are in Italy so I don't know if they have a Walmart or Academy there but slugs are made for the .410 as well as buckshot.

 

[O_Blade_O]

I'll ask around about, i'll make a ring at my dealer

By the way, can you recommend a shotgun? Single barrel, shoot it all, very good quality...

Any makers?? Thanks!!

 

[35Rem]

In Italy? Not sure.
In the USA, H&R or NEF (they are the same) Pardner/Topper
Rossi is making a single shot with a 410 barrel and a 22 LR barrel for about the same price.

 

[plumberroy]

brenneke makes a good 410

By the way, can you recommend a shotgun? Single barrel, shoot it all, very good quality...

Any makers?? Thanks!!

H&R/N.E.F is about the perfect fourten to me
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?item=sb1-041
I have toted one around the woods for nearly forty years now. I started out at ten years old with a H&R fourten went through the bigger more shots got to kill every game animal I see phase and now I am getting close to 50 I am back to carrying the small bore single shot
Roy

 

[oneounceload]

You could always go the V.T. area and drop in at some of the shops to see what they offer

 

[murdoc rose]

I like h&r toppers but rossis making a fine little single shot and u get a 22 barrel, 410s are fun ammos a little high but they are fun. I highly advise owning one.

 

[O_Blade_O]

Hi there,
I think i've found the gun i'll look for:
Investarm Model 80LS:

Magnum chamber, vented rib, upper opening. Should do.

Now now, can you tell me some some ammunition (slug in particular) from the most known makers??

Thanks a lot people!!

 

[clang]

Before you buy a .410, take a look at ammo costs. If you reload - no big deal, but .410 ammo is much more expnsive than 12ga & 20ga.

You may want ot look for a 20gaa instead to fill your small bore cravings.

 

[rhinoh]

Well it might be a little bit of a deal to reload .410
I have had quite a lot of frustration getting the crimps to form right on .410, 12G is much much easier. I even bought one of those $40 roll crimper doodads that goes in a drill...better but still a PITA.
Lately I gave up on crimping the shells closed and just cut 'em off and glue in a cardboard wad
I recently bought one of those Rossi .22/.410 combos, sweet little gun, $117 at WalMart
I have a buttstock pad from Rossi on the way to extend it a little since it is a youth model.

 

[Bud Tugly]

Fiocchi is an Italian brand and should have a wide range of .410 shells available.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

.410 is indeed the smallest commonly found (not counting shotshell loads in .22lr and .22 mag), and yes slugs are available.

But a 28 ga has quite a bit more pellets and is far more useful for actual hunting applications. Having said that, a properly applied .410 bore can wallop and take down stuff up to the size of rabbits, ducks, etc.

Don't think I'd consider 20 ga to be a "small bore". I'd call .410 and 28 ga small bore, 20 ga and 16 ga medium bore, and 12 and 10 ga large bore.

P.S. Measured in gauge, .410 bore is 67.5 ga.

 

[moosehunt]

I simply must ask, because two things seem strange to me in this whole thing:
A) Why in the world do you want a single shot? A pump is much more logical, and though pricy, a double would make a lot more sense than a single barrel.
B) Why would one want slugs in a .410? Shotguns are basically for shooting birds (real or clay), and that sure doesn't include the use of slugs!

 

[plumberroy]

I simply must ask, because two things seem strange to me in this whole thing:
A) Why in the world do you want a single shot? A pump is much more logical, and though pricy, a double would make a lot more sense than a single barrel.

There are some of us that are not interested in killing all game we see,and with enough self crontrol not to take shots at game that are not certain kills. follow up shots are not a big concern.
Some (me) just want a walk around gun something simple, short. and light and inexpensive and a 410 singleshot is the epitome of this type of gun

B) Why would one want slugs in a .410? Shotguns are basically for shooting birds (real or clay), and that sure doesn't include the use of slugs!

I was the oldest of 5 kids and we lived on a BIG garden and game shot in the hills of W.V. our nearest neighbor was 2 miles. I got a 410 single shot at 10 by 12 I was hunting alone I was shown the range I could shoot, 25 yards max with shot 40 yards with a slug and to "Aim Small" make my shot count and I could kill anything a bigger gun could. I was also taught a deer killed at three feet from the muzzle was more impressive than three hundred yards. So At 12 to 14 years old I believed what My Dad told me So I hid in the brush along side the creek and killed geese and ducks as they came in for a landing . I killed squirrel , rabbits. and grouse and quail shot coon and groundhog out when treed by an old cur dog. I also quietly traded the shot shell for a slug and dropped deer with a 410 single. Once when Dad was traveling for work, A feral pony was tearing up the garden, I set up along the trail he came in on. I put a 410 slug through his lungs from about 50 foot, he died with in 50 yards. I was the oldest and figured since Dad wasn't there it was my job to do something.
And no I didn't cripple a bunch of stuff.
But I had not been educated by the internet that a 410 was only good for chipmunks and house sparrows and had been taught a 410's limits
roy