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Smart Gun fans

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Patriotme, Nov 22, 2010.

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  1. Patriotme

    Patriotme Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Every once in a while someone that I work with will sing the praises of "Smart Guns." They are generally non shooters, Libs or just very uninformed. The idea must be a good one since it has "Smart" in the title....right.
    These are my arguments against the whole Smart Gun scheme. If you have a better one please add it.
    1) The police don't want Smart Guns for their use as they don't wish to trust their lives to a computer chip. Why should an average citizen feel safe using something that law enforcement doesn't trust?
    2) Will a computer chip hold up to the abuse inflicted upon it by a gun? Will it hold up to the recoil of thousands of rnds going off, being out in the weather, cleaning solvents and possibly bouncing around in the back of a truck? Would your computer last long under this abuse? What will this do a firearms price if it has to be built like a M1 Abrams?
    3) How long does your computer stay current before becoming obsolete or needing upgrades? How long will a "Smart Gun" remain "Smart" before some clever criminal finds a way to unlock the action with a signal? We have computer hackers, viruses and people stealing WiFi every day. Is it reasonable to expect your brand new "Smart Gun" to be keyed to you or your pendant 10 years from now? I suspect that a universal key will unlock older guns should this ever become the norm.
    4) Computer tech is constantly evolving and getting smaller. Will the system that allows your Glock to operate today still be working in 10-15 years? How about 25? Will you be able to upgrade it, fix it or even find batteries?
    5) Will the batteries become a controlled item that is only sold to gun stores and gunsmiths? This is a great way for registration to begin.
    6) Since we cannot make a computer that cannot be hacked why should we believe that a criminal will never be able to steal your gun's codes, signals, etc.
    7) Will a criminal be able to jam YOUR signal if you need your gun for self defense? We can jam WiFi, cell phones, etc. Why should we believe that a simple device will not be created to block your signal from a ring/pendant to a firearm?
    8) If we cannot stop someone from figuring out how to steal and use a 3000lb auto that costs $50,000 then how do you expect to load a 3lb firearm with enough tech to keep a criminal from stealing and using it?

    Anyway....these are the arguments that I use when the uniformed, sheeple or anti gunners bring up "Smart Guns" at work or family gatherings. Most will concede that the idea isn't everything that it's portrayed to be but remain convinced that we should do "Something."
    I look foward to any different arguments against (or even in favor of) "Smart Guns."
  2. FROGO207

    FROGO207 Member

    Dec 7, 2008
    Mount Desert Island Maine
    I am all for the SMART GUN. I think that the people that think that this is a good thing should be the test cases.:D If they do get this going then those that think this is a good thing should be the first ones to belly up to the sales counter and spend the large sums of precious cash to make themselves safe. I however will stick with the tried and true that has been the gold standard for the last 100+ years quite successfully.:D My stand is if firearms become obsolete in the future due to better weaponry I will relegate them to being curios for a collection of outdated defense methods and retained by me and then my heirs until they are once again needed for what they were designed.:cool:
  3. therewolf

    therewolf member

    Nov 12, 2010
    Pasco Cty, Florida
    I think the antis need to perfect this technology, first.

    They should get out of their smart bed to the tune of their smart alarm clock, use the smart toilet, and take a smart shower with smart soap and smart shampoo. Then they should cook themselves breakfast using the smart stove and smart toaster and get their juice from the smart refrigerator,etc.

    Oh,oh,oh, would our invasion into their private lives be an imposition on THEM?
  4. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    0 hrs east of TN
    There aren't any "smart guns" that are smart enough yet so what is it that they're fond of?

    Unless the gun can instantly detect that the authorized user(s) have it in their hand the firearm is useless for defensive purposes. Since there is nothing currently available nor on the technological horizon then there are no smart guns available.

    As soon as the technology is available I'm certain it will be a huge success. Until then...
  5. lwsimon

    lwsimon Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    All great points, except #2. As a nerd, the only part of the average PC that is shock-sensitive is the hard drive, and an embedded device would use flash storage of some type. Recoil isn't going to touch it, and if you strike it hard enough to break the seals and damage the electronics, you're probably going to have mechanical problems with your gun.

    Not that I think it's a good idea - I don't even like having safeties on my guns in many instances. Simple is good.
  6. justgoto

    justgoto member

    Mar 23, 2009
    How is a firearm that cannot be use by the next available Militia member going to promote the security of a free State?
  7. jimjc

    jimjc member

    Nov 24, 2010
    SMART GUNS HUH....The future will bring us to, everything being smart, our cars our houses, our guns, everything, maybe even a chip in your head. Then there will be this army of robots, in a big warehouse somewhere, that have buttons to control all those smart things we will have, one day when they decide that you are not deserving any longer, the button will be pushed and presto you now have nothing, that works, you have been eliminated.:cuss:
  8. oldbear

    oldbear Member

    Nov 1, 2009
    South East Coast
    As with so many concepts the “smart” gun concept is a great answer to a question that has not been asked. Personally would not have a problem with the concept if I could be assured that the technology was 100% reliable. Until then I will just rely on common sense and training, two things that technology can’t replace.:banghead:
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