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Im not sure about that either myself. MCarbo sells a spring kit that includes a standard velocity and hypervelocity recoil spring. So this correlates.
Snagged myself a different sort of JM Marlin...a Model 60
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Im not sure about that either myself. MCarbo sells a spring kit that includes a standard velocity and hypervelocity recoil spring. So this correlates.
I suppose it depends on volume of the shooting on the buffers, & yes hyper velocity is supposed to be a no no...
I asked the Marlin folks once and they said “just don’t shoot a crazy amount of hyper stuff”.....
But really..... I don’t think 1550 fps range loads are that much of an issue, IF combined with lighter bullets!
what is the wear/recoil difference in a 1280 fps 42 grain load, vs. a 1550 load with a 30 grain bullet, really? The bolt is what slams the buffet right? Force Sum = Mass X Acceleration.
I wouldn’t wanna shoot those 40gr., 1400+ loads, and don’t in a Marlin. Heavier bullets are trending the last few years.
I think that Ruger will continue the 60 in the short term, even if it is unchanged. There seem to be no new ones for sale, so they could probably sell quite a few,....and all they’d have to do to sell a LOT of them just the way they are internally, is just put those Talo special hardwood stocks on them!
The 60 fanbase would gobble them up. I saw a 10/22 with the Farming scene stock was just incredible to look at, almost bought it, but it was $400. Love the stock, but not at 400.
The 60 fanbase would gobble them up. I saw a 10/22 with the Farming scene stock was just incredible to look at, almost bought it, but it was $400. Love the stock, but not at 400.
Another thing to remember about the Marlin plastic buffers. NEVER EVER USE ANY TYPE OF CHLORINATED BRAKE CLEANER OR CARB CLEANER. Any kind of cleaner that is chlorinated will flat eat the plastic buffer and make it crumble. The simplest thing to remember is to not use brake, carb or even electrical contact cleaners.
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I've never used brake cleaner on anything. Just Hoppes or Shooters Choice and maybe Birchwood-Casey. And some Remoil to lube.
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earlthegoat2:
This might be highly classified, but when are you going to shoot it?
This might be highly classified, but when are you going to shoot it?
CLP is fine and completely safe on plastics. The US military used Break-Free CLP for decades and none of the polymer parts on any of the weapons ever failed due to CLP.
Just look at this thread!
It goes to show that Ruger made a great deal, buying Marlin for what, 30? !!
And if they play this right, they can use the acquisition to improve the Ruger brand, and establish the Marlin brand as American standards as well as rival the other international brands that dominate long guns. If, & when they can get Rugers as slick and shootin’ great every time as FN, Sako, CZ, and others (who am I forgetting?) then they can replace the spot Remington once held, a long time ago.
It goes to show that Ruger made a great deal, buying Marlin for what, 30? !!
And if they play this right, they can use the acquisition to improve the Ruger brand, and establish the Marlin brand as American standards as well as rival the other international brands that dominate long guns. If, & when they can get Rugers as slick and shootin’ great every time as FN, Sako, CZ, and others (who am I forgetting?) then they can replace the spot Remington once held, a long time ago.
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Some have stated their preference for the 10/22. I’ve always preferred the Model 60. Mine has the ArrowDodger trigger upgrade which was free because it was one of the first ones he did when he was just starting and wanted to get the word out.
I almost never shoot it and in fact I haven’t shot it in around seven years, but I’ll never sell it.
I almost never shoot it and in fact I haven’t shot it in around seven years, but I’ll never sell it.
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I don't know if you have found it yet but there is a large section for Marlin 22s on the rimfire central website. Those guys are everything 22 over there with lots of tips and parts for about any 22 made.
https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/
https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/
Yeah it’s a great forum for info. I learned about the DIP trigger from there.
And on Arrowdodger’s trigger.....
Please be extra careful if you carry that gun hunting or with a youth, if it has the 1.4 lb pull...
I saw that trigger job talked of a lot, but, imho, less than 3lb. is too light for a hunting gun!
No matter how careful you are,... there will be that (one time) you forget, didn’t get it fully unloaded, left one chambered, or a child swings it past you in excitement after hitting a target! It happens....
In those very few but dangerous moments, its the safety and the proper functionality of the trigger that can save tragedy...
And, yes I’d do a 3-4lb reduction maybe, but MOST guns, shotguns, rifles, pistols, etc., are more like 4-8 lbs. If you don’t do all the triggers on all the guns you hunt with, then that 3lb one really takes some getting used to, and a 1lb. one would be downright diabolical, coming from heavy triggers. I’ve seen guys fire unintentionally into the sky with those brand new 2lbs triggers on AR’s. Old flintlocks had “set” triggers to try and solve this very problem.
Falling in the field is another thing. No matter how safe you are, you’ll fall one day, or the gun will hit ground crossing a fence or something. It happens. So be extra careful with those Arrowdodger triggers.
And on Arrowdodger’s trigger.....
Please be extra careful if you carry that gun hunting or with a youth, if it has the 1.4 lb pull...
I saw that trigger job talked of a lot, but, imho, less than 3lb. is too light for a hunting gun!
No matter how careful you are,... there will be that (one time) you forget, didn’t get it fully unloaded, left one chambered, or a child swings it past you in excitement after hitting a target! It happens....
In those very few but dangerous moments, its the safety and the proper functionality of the trigger that can save tragedy...
And, yes I’d do a 3-4lb reduction maybe, but MOST guns, shotguns, rifles, pistols, etc., are more like 4-8 lbs. If you don’t do all the triggers on all the guns you hunt with, then that 3lb one really takes some getting used to, and a 1lb. one would be downright diabolical, coming from heavy triggers. I’ve seen guys fire unintentionally into the sky with those brand new 2lbs triggers on AR’s. Old flintlocks had “set” triggers to try and solve this very problem.
Falling in the field is another thing. No matter how safe you are, you’ll fall one day, or the gun will hit ground crossing a fence or something. It happens. So be extra careful with those Arrowdodger triggers.
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MCarbo used to sell a trigger upgrade for the Remington 597 that was under a pound advertised. I never got it because I knew that was too light. It is not listed on their site anymore.
I did get the Volquartsen hammer for the 597 which lightened the pull from 6+ pounds to around 3.5-4.
I did get the Volquartsen hammer for the 597 which lightened the pull from 6+ pounds to around 3.5-4.
Totally agree. How’s the Volq? Are they that good, as people say?
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Its a marked improvement. The 597s have famously tough trigger pulls. I have heard of them being so heavy the trigger pull gauge bottoms out and so heavy that two fingers needed to be used. Mine was never that bad. The Volquartsen hammer just lowered the weight and there is a little less creep.
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I like good triggers. All of mine are between 2.5-3 pounds on my hunting rifles which is all I have. The exception is my CZ 550 which when set is around .5 lb. And I of course don’t walk around with it set. My Model 60 is not 1.4 pounds, it’s 2.75 pounds. I’ll decide what is too heavy or light on my rifles and will not tell you what is too light or heavy for yours.
I'm with you. A neighbor brought a 60 for me to put back together, after his dad took it apart and screwed it up, losing a few parts. I'd taken a few 60s apart, but never completely. It was a difficult situation, because I had no clue as to which parts weren't working, missing, etc. It was my least-favorite gun job ever! However, after checking the exploded drawing and comparing what I was looking at, the drawings, there had been some minor mods as time went on. In any case, I managed to de-rust, reassemble, and replace questionable parts, making it work fine. The guy enjoyed using the gun again, but Model 60 Marlins won't ever grace my threshold again, especially those already apart.
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I can see this. I came across a 50th anniversary Marlin (2010) yesterday. A bit shot out, but the walnut stock almost made it worth the asking price.
I have 2 Glenfield 60s. One wears Tech Sights and the other has a Nikon rimfire scope. The scoped one has a squirrel stock and the other has an oak leaf. Both are the old style with 22 inch barrels and 18 round magazines. I enjoy shooting the one with Tech Sights because its more challenging. I plan to set the scoped one up with a 200 yard zero just for fun. Thats the max range on the local rifle range i usually use. They're separated by a few years in manufacturing date. The scoped one cycles standard and high velocity and I even ran a box of Interceptors through it to try. The other does not like the standard velocity and gets Mini-mags and other 1200ish fps ammo. My daughter doesnt like to shoot much, but she can regularly hit a 1" pasty at 50 yards with the scoped one.
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My first firearm purchase was a Glenfield 60. 40 years ago...how time flies! I still remember the anxious excitement of bringing it home and taking it out for the first time. Seems like yesterday!
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I have always liked the M60. Just didn't like the tube, taught Appleseed for a long time and saw new owners struggle with the 1022 everywhere I went.
Lacking a good magazine fed rifle, I found the internal pieces from discontinued marlin mag fed rifles and put several together using them and the benefits were very good. Used one as a loner rifle for at least 3 years. That means it was run full course round count almost every weekend.
One broken recoil buffer. Yes the marlin M 60 is a good one
Lacking a good magazine fed rifle, I found the internal pieces from discontinued marlin mag fed rifles and put several together using them and the benefits were very good. Used one as a loner rifle for at least 3 years. That means it was run full course round count almost every weekend.
One broken recoil buffer. Yes the marlin M 60 is a good one
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