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Anyone who thinks that leaving a poisonous snake in a human proximate area is a moron. If you decide to allow them to live in "their" habitat, so be it.

I aim low and kill every snake is not obviously poisonous.

That said, when I know that I am going to be likely to see a rattler I put 2 rounds of snake shot in my 357. If the deadly north american primate is more threatening...so be it
 
I have also killed quite a few quail - on the wing - in season - and a couple of woodcock with them. The 44s are a bit more effective, but even the 357/38s are great snake medicine.

Well, as handguns go, I find a nice full choked .410 barrel on my contender works MUCH better for avian targets and will take rabbits and other small game as well. Snakes, don't need no stinkin' shot for snakes, but the last one I shot was with that .410, blew its head off just like a bullet at 10 feet with full choke. :D It was a 5 footer, fried up real tasty.

They're really easy to clean, too, easy as breasting a dove. You just peel the skin and the guts just fall out, then chop it up and batter and fry like chicken. Finger lickin' good. :D
 
This theory sounds silly to me. Do you have a link to a source that would support it? Keep in mind we're not talking about "conditioning" single higher form animals, such as a bear or coyote.

They aren't exactly wandering marauders. Are you suggesting that eliminating them from an area will not result in fewer of them in that area? Dead snakes don't have little snakes; that seemed like a logical conclusion to me.
 
Maybe. I can remove the one that's there, that's for sure. :D But, the jungle across the fence is where they've come from when they're in my yard. I kill 'em in the yard when I find 'em. Killed one with a lawnmower, sling blade, uh huh. :D Killed a couple with a hoe. Works rather well.
 
yep, shoot it or smack it with a shovel. Rattlers don't belong around people.

people matter, snakes don't.
 
I avoid poisonous snakes in the woods, etc - that's their habitat and I am the intruder. They actually have a place there - they are important to the eco-system. I live in a subdivision - and keep my back yard more natural (wooded). I make any suspected copperhead I find - and I have found several over the years - including two babies in the sawdust under my tablesaw once - into a 'good snake', ie, into many pieces (Hoe, hoe, hoe...). Nearly losing a foot to a brown recluse spider bite years ago changed my mind about taking spiders outside to release to clean them off my shoe with a tissue.

Now, about carrying a revolver for snakes... I carried my 642 with shot loaded when I mowed the lawn - asked a deputy about that. Nope - I could go to jail for discharging a firearm! The only beast I can legally shoot, and the laws are lenient now that we have a 'castle law', walks upright on two feet. That means the German shepherds, pit bulls, etc, that run free can't be shot, ether - unless they threaten my life. Quick, get the shotgun - that derelict Dachsund is mauling me - again.

Stainz

PS I don't own a shotgun. I have indoor only 'killer' cats.
 
Don't know about Alabama, but in Texas, firearms discharge laws are city ordinances, class C misdemeanor, punishable by fine. You can get cuffed and stuffed, though, for it, spend a few hours in a holding cell til the judge gets there so you can pay your fine. But, think traffic ticket as your record goes. However, I don't discharge firearms at the house unless I'm being attacked by something bigger than a snake. LOL I live on the edge of town, woods around the house and behind the back fence and a big corn field back there. It's a small town. So, I have vermin here. Friggin' possum got into my kitchen the other night, ran out a small hole under the cabinet I guess from the back porch that I blocked off with a chunk of 2x4 to keep him out. Haven't seen him back. I couldn't get on him quick enough with the NAA .22 mini revolver I had in my pocket. I thought I had rats, thing was eating bait on the back porch, kept eating it. Seems rat poison don't kill possums. LOL Was a young one, after my cat's food in the kitchen and found a way in. If the wife woulda seen him, she'd still be screamin'. LOL

I've got critters around the yard at night sometimes. I'll try to run the coons off, but occasionally I'll shoot a possum. If it's on the ground, I've been known to use a .22 rifle and CB shorts. My .177 Crossman spring gun will kill possums, though, with a couple of head shots at close range. :D

My neighbor across the street has a huge yard and their land goes down to the water on the bay. There's about 10 acres of woods across the street next to their house, old owners used it for horses, belongs to them. Then, there's about 20 acres undeveloped next to that with a city ditch that runs down to the water. Lots of critters. Before the Walmart went in down the street, used to be feral hogs roaming the land behind my house at night along that ditch. So, my neighbor told me the other day, they have two red foxes running around down by the bay they've seen in their lights at night. Kinda cool. I'm sure there's bobcat back there, too. Lots for 'em to eat. It's kinda like country living here, sorta, but in town inside the city limits. Rattlers come with the territory. But, I've killed three out of the yard in 30 years, so it's not THAT big a problem. Now, on my land out in the boonies where I deer hunt, don't tread without the snake boots, especially on a crisp, bright sunny day in spring. I've walked 300 yards down there and seen FOUR snakes in that 300 yards before, and that's the ones I saw! The grass is tall, not grazed, and the scrub oak brush is thick everywhere. You really have to be careful.
 
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I would rather kill a dangerous snake than leave it for someone else to find. Plus I may not being lucky enough to see it the next time I am out.



http://www.catalinaconservancy.org/visitors/recreation/snakes.cfm

During the winter, rattlesnakes sleep in caves or other hiding places. Baby rattlesnakes are born in the spring and have a full supply of venom at birth. The adult snake can control the amount of venom it injects, and often it injects only part of the venom it has. The baby snake is more likely to inject all of its venom when it bites. Bites from baby rattlesnakes can be very dangerous.
 
Five 0,
First, shell shot is not intended for self defense. You're making a mistake by using it for such. You're either dedicated to using lethal force or not. What if you legitimately shoot a violent aggressor in the face and permanently main him instead of killing him (by using shotshell instead of an HP). Now he can sue you and claim that he was only coming to ask for a drink of water when you viciously shot him in the face, blinding and maiming him, and sue you for millions of dollars... it happens!

Second, why kill the snake? Wasteful. I don't understand that mentality of killing for the sake of killing.

I'm deployed and found a very poisonous scorpion on our camp, but it scurried off and I let it. No sense in killing it for the sake of killing it. The earth is a delicate cycle of food chain. That rattler is needed to keep pests in check. If you kill rattlers senselessly, then you may see an increase in pests, etc.

Think globally, act locally my friend.
 
They aren't exactly wandering marauders. Are you suggesting that eliminating them from an area will not result in fewer of them in that area? Dead snakes don't have little snakes; that seemed like a logical conclusion to me.
You're getting off topic. I'm suggesting that you offer proof for what you stated as fact...regarding the "conditioning" of other animals. Either you can or you can't. Changing your focus to a semi-related but still different point won't change that.
 
in that case all of the idiotic "snake rights advocates" can shut the hell up
Guillermo,
To whom are you referring? It can't be anyone in this thread, because no one has attempted to make a case for snakes rights. On the other hand, it does seem stupid if not cowardly to suggest that we should "kill it if it ain't human and might be skeery."

Anyone wanna bet on whether or not Guillermo responds?
 
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16 year old KID? really.. we calling 16 year olds kids?

I would understand a 9, 10, 11, 12 or even 13 year old but a 16 year old is a kid...
I thought the only 16 year old kids were the ones killed while committing a crime whose mother said they were a great KID who never never hurt a fly..

16 year old kid... WOW...

if something is a threat... eliminate it, if it is not, let it be.
 
SaxonPig:
God wanted them here for some reason

He sure did...
Genesis 3:15
God says to the serpent
"...he will crush your head,
and you will strike at his heel."

And now we know the ground rules.:)
Snakes don't last too long if they come around my house.
 
Just use regular shot, I've found snake shot unreliable at best (in .22's, thats my only experience)

As for the whole snake death argument, I let rattlers live that rattle at me, I've heard tale that there is a rise in rattlesnake population that won't rattle at humans to alert them, since alerting them is likely to get the snake killed.

BTW, I hate varmints more than snakes, and rattlers are hard on rats. Its a mutual understanding that we have :)
 
I agree, there was no reason to kill that snake and, it's a very bad idea to load the first 2 rounds of your J frame with snakeshot for SD. (very bad idea IMO)
 
this year alone I have shot 2 rattlers and 4 water moccasin all with 40 s&w shotshells. They were way too close to the hunting lodge and around the dock that I was working on and where kids would be playing so yes they had to go. If anyone has a problem with what I did I hope that you never have to try to save a childs life when one of them gets bit. But to avoid the snakes everything is nicely cut and weedeated and yet they will show up so everyone who is where poisonous snakes are at becareful and keep a look out.
 
"...A large rock sent him to snake heaven..." You'd rather have rats etc? Leave Kaa alone and Kaa will leave you alone. Teach your kids about snakes and control your animals.
 
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