Sniffing out the concealers.

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I normally dont start threads.

But one person today at the store smelled lead, gun oil and what not because I had not yet cleaned the handgun from a recent range shoot. He stopped, looked me over, sniffed and said.. I smell lead or something like gun oil on you.

I simply stated to him that my shirt must have picked up some of that cleaning stuff from the cleaning of a shotgun recently and havent washed it yet. Real calm and cool, ho-hum as if it's aboslutely of no matter at all worth considering.

He eyeballed me, thought about it and went, hm. Ok I can buy that and walked away.

What he didnt know was that durn pistol that I aint cleaned yet was riding in it's concealed holster on my person.

Lesson, clean before you carry.
 
This is the first I've heard of this. Gun oil doesn't require firing to carry a scent, and if he can smell it emanating from you, odds are you're using too much. Or, like the cover line you used it was on you or on your clothing.
 
I don't carry it unless its clean, the only exception is when I leave the range and reload it for carry until I get home that day/hour.
Its a little thing but it could make a difference if anything happens. Guns are reliable and all, but you gotta take every advantage you can, and a clean gun is more reliable than a dirty one.
 
I too think it would be wise to always clean before you carry. But what I want to know is who is this guy that he would walk up and start sniffing you?

If someone I didn't know walked up to me, started sniffing me and accused me of having a gun, I would be tempted to tell I did and that he better start backing up. (Please read a little bit of sarcasm into that statement.)

But on a more serious note, I have had some concerns about leaving the range with the smell of burnt gun powder all over me. I try to avoid going anyplace but home for that reason. Plus, I don't like to leave my guns in my truck in a parking lot after being at the range. But if someone did ever make a comment I would simply tell them I've been to the range.
 
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Fart, and ask him what he's carrying?
Sorry, couldn't help it.
No, never ever ran into this before, maybe you can say it's the new fragrance, Smith and Wesson no. 44?
 
It's the new cologne my wife gave me. "Ode De Smith & Wesson"..:evil:

Seriously tho, if he knows what gun oil, lead and etc. guns, smells like, would assume he's handled said stuff more than once, so why would he give you the stink eye? :confused:
 
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I don't carry it unless its clean, the only exception is when I leave the range and reload it for carry until I get home that day/hour.
Its a little thing but it could make a difference if anything happens. Guns are reliable and all, but you gotta take every advantage you can, and a clean gun is more reliable than a dirty one.

I always carry a clean weapon. Always. As the man said, a clean gun IS ALWAYS MORE RELIABLE THAN A DIRTY ONE, always.

If I shoot it at the range or anywhere else, I replace it with one of my clean weapons that are set up for fighting. Prime example why you should always have more than one of your carry weapons. The weapons that have been shot will be cleaned immediately upon return to my base. (I no longer march to the guns. I can afford the delay to return to my base to clean my weapons these days. I didn't in the old days to be sure. Besides as stated I always have an additional clean carry weapon with me too.)

On some of the larger competitions I shoot in and used to shoot in, I would clean the weapon between stages too, and often before I went home. I guess that was part of the ole' Marine DI coming out in me.

All part of setting up for the serious CCW practitioner. It ain't about just sticking a handgun in your belt.

Go figure.

Fred

Stupid should hurt
 
Lesson, clean before you carry.
Clean is good, but I will not carry a weapon that I have disassembled to clean until I test-fire it to make sure it goes BOOM! appropriately again.

Wipe down and swab the bore bofore carryin'? Sure.
 
Shoot, then straight home. Got it.

Not wally or any other place with that gun smoke or whatever hanging all over you.

It did take me a moment to consider if I was dealing with a deviant and was ready to get him to back the &^% up until I thought about it for a sec.

It's really not that big of a deal. But thought to throw it out there.
 
So what if you smell like gun oil? Tell him to back off. It's none of his business what you do. Maybe you work at a range, gun store, ammo factory, gun test facility. Again, it's none of his freakin' biz and TELL him so.
 
I do not care what I smell like, and I would take exception to anyone telling me I smelled.

As a rule, unless I am leaving my day job I smell like compost anyway.

#9 is my favorite scent.
 
Clean is good, but I will not carry a weapon that I have disassembled to clean until I test-fire it to make sure it goes BOOM! appropriately again.

Wipe down and swab the bore bofore carryin'? Sure.

I strongly suggest you acquire the skills to reliably clean and reassemble your weapons. If you cannot reliably reassemble your weapons, you really should not be taking them apart for any reason. You really do need training then.

In combat that can be a life saver. It was for me. And yes during my training I had to learn to disassemble and reassemble my weapons both rifle and pistol blind folded, and under the clock. It does give one confidence and is excellent training. Oh yes, every tiime we put them together, they HAD TO WORK.

Go figure.

Fred

Stupid should hurt
 
I beg to differ, I carry a dirty gun.

Hungry Seagull,

I am not directing my reply to you sir.
Instead we continue to have new folks wanting to be matriculated into the firearm community. I was just raised to be responsible, in passing forward as passed to me.
My post applies to not only Conceal Carry handguns, also handguns rifles and shotguns, one may be called upon to use for serious situations.
Such as those kept in the home or business.



Mr. Murphy is always looking for an opportunity to trip one up, and prefers to trip one up, at the most worst times possible.

After shooting, I will inspect, maintain, and clean if need, while at the range. Then I will shoot the gun, with carry magazines, to know, the gun runs, with its magazines.

I will not (prefer not) to carry a gun that has been taken down, inspected, maintained, new parts, or cleaned if need, that I have not shot first.
I will (prefer to) use another gun instead.

A revolver is also fired, while more forgiving if you will, I still gotta know that revolver runs. Correct basics for me, include shooting after inspect, maintain, and clean if need, no matter if semi-auto, or revolver.

Repetition becomes habit, habit becomes faith.



I competed for too many years, and I started really young. I have seen too many folks, have a glitch with a clean gun.

I have seen too many folks clean a clean gun, use improper methods, and focus on cleaning that which is not critical for gun function, and not inspect, maintain, and clean if need, that which is important for the safe, reliable, functioning of a firearm.

Many times, this is due to getting the latest greatest gun cleaning kit, wonder lube, and solvent.

I care about chambers, feeding, and extraction.

I subscribe to Shuman's thoughts, about cleaning bores - I don't.
Sure if the gun gets wet, exposed to mud, snow, rain, etc, one needs to inspect and maintain the bore, clean if need. This does not mean it has to be so pristine and shiny one can eat off of it.

Competition, I want you to clean your gun, even if you cleaned it the night before, you have time before we start shooting, why here, I will even let you use some gun cleaning stuff I have/ that is available here at this range/club.

If you screw up something, over cleaning, focusing on that which is not important, and not inspecting or maintaining that which is, I own you.
If you get in a hurry, and forget a part, or install it incorrectly I own you.

I showed up to win, and the Mental game is 90% of shooting and the other 10% is the physical stuff, like guns, gear, ammo gun kits, gun oil, solvent, grease, cleaning rods, pull through cleaning cables, boresnakes...etc.

I have beaten many folks, before the first shot was fired, and others by the time the second, or third shot was "attempted". Often times, I had yet to shoot.


In the real world there is no time outs, no "do-overs" and dead is forever.

I was raised with gun fit to shooter for tasks, and once the Physical was found for me, forget it, just get multiples of same. Never ever steal from the Mental 90% and use for the physical 10%.

I have no problem with having other guns, and ones that operate different and all that.
That said, anything can and will break, need service, or attention. I was raised to have at least 3, of same, for serious use.
I and mine chose to have 4. Concealed carry, competition, home, business, serious means having 4 multiples of same.

Primary, back up, back up to primary and back up if needing service, and one off site, in the event one ends up in evidence locker, or disaster hits (fire, flood, tornado, hurricane, etc).


Another reason, is I simply did not have time to "clean" as some choose to define "clean" it today.
If I was not shooting a competition, I was shooting practice rounds, or reloading, or traveling to shoot.

One of my guns, now gone due to disaster, was a Gov't Model of 1911. It had about 1 1/2" inches of rifling left near the muzzle end of the barrel.
It takes more than a box of fifty shells to do that to a barrel.
Now I did never got into metallic reloading, instead shotgun shells. So with trusted folks in my circle, I did the shotgun loadings and others did the metallic.
Lots of 200 gr lead went through that barrel. Correct me if my memory is off, still it was the 200 gr of HG #68 lead loads.
I competed with that load, and carried that load.

I had four 1911s just alike, stock, except for stocks, and gold "bead" ( enhanced) front sight on two.
I carried the two with gold beads, and one more often than the other. One had a bit more bluing left than the other. Magazines were USGI/Colt 7 round, with the dimple follower.

Oh, my other "just because" tweak, was making thin, wood, base pads, folks today call them "bumper pads".
I had some BBQ ones made of Ivory, which I used with Ivory stocks.
My mags were numbered, still, I liked my base pads, and it made it easier to see, identify and find my mags.

Re: Getting made and smell.
Never have.
And I was around others, including those not into guns, or flat out against guns, besides my tight circle, or like kind, or "gun settings".

Methinks, some of the new-n-fangled ain't so good. Like the man said "I use whatever lube/solvent was in the shooters kits.

Too many guns are messed up by improper methods, and improper tool use.
And again, cleaning a clean gun.

I gotta know the gun runs, before I step out into reality with it.

This is another reason I prefer simple guns, that can be field stripped with no tools, or using few tools, or expedient tools.

Mr. Murphy is lurking, and waiting, to screw my life up.
He has, in serious times, more than once.
So you do everything you can to minimize problems, and there is no guarantee you will not have Mr. Murphy show up.

i.e, being out , travel, competition, whatever and say needing to get a gun apart, inspect, maintain, (say a blown primer, or seeds, or pc of wood, or pc of clay target) and a Gov't Model of 1911, without a FLGR, is easy to get apart and back together. Shotguns, are easy to punch receiver pins with a car key, or stick. Side Saddles impede me being able to do this on a shotgun.

I have fixed a GM of 1911 for a new shooter, that had recoil guide plug go "fritz". Muddy conditions and he dropped, then stepped on it when we finished that
fun dealie, and were in safe area, inspecting and maintaining, and getting the mud and water out.
[not a full tilt boogie cleaning)]
I had another plug , still he did not realize a spent 45ACP casing would fit and work as well. JMB designed the 1911 to do this.

Twice I have fixed a shotgun, with a stick, and pen knife, that lost receiver pins. Once during a "mud and the blood and the skeeters run" and once on a bird hunt.



I play for keeps, lest I not make it back. -Wanted Dead or Alive, Bon Jovi.
 
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Uh...

He stopped, looked me over, sniffed and said.. I smell lead or something like gun oil on you.

Best response I can think of?

"That's not surprising, really." And walk away.

(I'd be thinking, "Yeah? Well you can shove it way up where the sun don't shine and twist it around a bit, buddy." But I want to do my utmost to avoid any confrontations while carrying.)

I've cast bullets, shot a lot of black powder, etc. and I've never "smelled lead."

What does lead smell like?

Also, anyone who has ever accidentally washed clothes with gun-cleaning rags knows that Hoppes is a VERY pervasive smell.:)

But what was the guy's major malfunction, anyway? If you'd just mowed your lawn, would he tell you that you smell like grass clippings? Was he a cop? A busybody?

I guess that's something nice about the Mountain West. If you open carry, and people notice and care, they just pretend not to. It's part of a MYOB culture that still exists in some places (excluding resort towns).
 
Speaking of sniffers...
I've heard of shooters who've been detained and hassled by TSA for having gunpowder residue detected on their hands or clothes or shoes. I believe it even happened to a Marine returning from a tour in Iraq.

Something to keep in mind if you fly.

Tinpig
 
I always carry a clean weapon. Always. As the man said, a clean gun IS ALWAYS MORE RELIABLE THAN A DIRTY ONE, always.
On the other hand, I refuse to carry a gun that isn't reliable when dirty. I wouldn't carry a gun that can't go 1,000 rounds without malfunctioning, so why should it matter that I just put 250 through it at the range? If you are worried that one range session could in any real way decrease the reliability of your weapon you should pick something different to carry.
 
"That's because I've been out shooting guns." (Blink blink.)

I've heard more than one person say that they test-fire after they clean, but I'm not entirely convinced it's necessary. Maybe I'll change my mind, if one day I have a cleaning cause a malfunction. Hasn't happened to me yet.
 
Lead is odorless.

I'd have responded with, "Hot damn, you can SMELL lead? You should talk to your doctor about that." :D

Powder residue and gun oil/solvent, on the other hand, is very aromatic. If the guy knows what they smell like, then he's very likely a shooter. Another optional reply would have been, "Yeah but what KIND of gun oil??"
 
And I also agree with Gryffydd, in that I expect them to perform better than that. I always clean after I shoot, but if for some reason I had to re-holster and carry (or reload and keep fighting) without cleaning, I wouldn't be preoccupied with worry about it either.
 
It occurs to me that you may have encountered an off-duty or plainclothes cop. He smelled gun smoke and oil on you (as noted lead is odorless) and decided to push you a little to see your reaction. His reasons for doing it, I couldn't say. Is CCW legal where you live? Were you within the law?
Your reaction obviously wasn't what he was fishing for.
Another possibility is he was hitting on you and your gaydar needs calibrated.
 
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