hankdatank1362
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I'm so excited! I've never open carried before (other than personal property, range, woods, etc..)
This should be great!
This should be great!
So open carry is legal in NC?
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Yes it is legal to carry a full size pistol in an owb holster, NC will honor your SC gun laws. Check out this web site....http://www.handgunlaw.us/ and click on SC.
rocket lad
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It should also be noted that Durham County has horrendous crime rates.
I'm from Lexington. I've never had a problem with OC anywhere in the triad (even when I carried a S&W 629).
Few points
- You don't need a permit to own or carry a handgun in NC
- You need a purchase permit to buy one from someone (unless you have an NC CCW), and you need a CCW to carry one concealed.
- In the car, if you keep it openly on the passenger seat, you have no issues OCing in a car.
- some towns have weird issues with OC, like chapel hill.
- When you use a purchase permit, you give it to the person you're buying from, therefore making it impossible to show an LEO. No offense to the criminal justice student up there, but...study harder.
Again, no. NC honors SC CCW permits, but just because someone is from SC doesn't mean that person gets to skirt by NC gun laws.
I'm from Lexington. I've never had a problem with OC anywhere in the triad (even when I carried a S&W 629).
Few points
- You don't need a permit to own or carry a handgun in NC
- You need a purchase permit to buy one from someone (unless you have an NC CCW), and you need a CCW to carry one concealed.
- In the car, if you keep it openly on the passenger seat, you have no issues OCing in a car.
- some towns have weird issues with OC, like chapel hill.
- When you use a purchase permit, you give it to the person you're buying from, therefore making it impossible to show an LEO. No offense to the criminal justice student up there, but...study harder.
Again, no. NC honors SC CCW permits, but just because someone is from SC doesn't mean that person gets to skirt by NC gun laws.
Residents of North Carolina are required to obtain a Permit to Purchase a handgun from the Sheriff of the county they are a residents of. The Sheriff may deny the Permit to Purchase based on a background check. Not all NC Counties operate the same when it comes to issuing Permits to Purchase or NC Concealed Handgun Permits. It all depends on the Sheriff.
The Permit to Purchase costs $5 per permit and is valid in all NC counties and is turned in to the FFL dealer upon purchasing a handgun.
However, there is an exception to this. If you are a NC resident and possess a current North Carolina Concealed Handgun Permit you do not have to have a Permit to Purchase issued by your Sheriff. You do have to show the FFL dealer your NC Concealed Handgun Permit and fill out all the required paper work normally required when purchasing a handgun.
North Carolina does not require a permit for open carry, but does require a Noth Carolina Concealed Handgun Permit for Concealed Carry.
There are places designated by NC law where neither type of carry is allowed by the general public even if one has a valid NC Concealed Handgun Permit:
Government buildings, schools, Post Offices, Establishments that have the No Handguns Permited sign prominently displayed, public gatherings where admission is charged such as County Fairs, etc. There are more.
Let's err on the side of caution and just go with the same restrictions as concealed. The quick-and-dirty list (state only, Federal laws will also apply everywhere):
North Carolina - No Carry in:
Any location posted "no weapons" or similar
Law Enforcement or Correctional Facilities
Any county, state or federal offices (courthouses, post offices, etc)
Financial institutions (banks, credit unions, etc)
Educational Property (schools/colleges)
Any location used as a curricular or extracurricular activity sponsored by a school
Any location where an admission fee is charged (gun range?!)
Any location in which alcoholic beverages are sold AND consumed (restaurant serving beer or a bar. NOT a grocery store, gas station or other place which only sells it)
Parades
Funeral processions
Picket lines
Demonstrations
Actual law is below..
§ 14‑415.11. Permit to carry concealed handgun; scope of permit.
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(c) A permit does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun in the areas prohibited by G.S. 14‑269.2, 14‑269.3, 14‑269.4, and 14‑277.2, in an area prohibited by rule adopted under G.S. 120‑32.1, in any area prohibited by 18 U.S.C. § 922 or any other federal law, in a law enforcement or correctional facility, in a building housing only State or federal offices, in an office of the State or federal government that is not located in a building exclusively occupied by the State or federal government, a financial institution, or on any other premises, except state‑owned rest areas or state‑owned rest stops along the highways, where notice that carrying a concealed handgun is prohibited by the posting of a conspicuous notice or statement by the person in legal possession or control of the premises. It shall be unlawful for a person, with or without a permit, to carry a concealed handgun while consuming alcohol or at any time while the person has remaining in his body any alcohol or in his blood a controlled substance previously consumed, but a person does not violate this condition if a controlled substance in his blood was lawfully obtained and taken in therapeutically appropriate amounts.
§ 14‑269.2. Weapons on campus or other educational property.
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(b) It shall be a Class I felony for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol, or other firearm of any kind on educational property or to a curricular or extracurricular activity sponsored by a school. Unless the conduct is covered under some other provision of law providing greater punishment, any person who willfully discharges a firearm of any kind on educational property is guilty of a Class F felony. However, this subsection does not apply to a BB gun, stun gun, air rifle, or air pistol.
§ 14‑269.3. Carrying weapons into assemblies and establishments where alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry any gun, rifle, or pistol into any assembly where a fee has been charged for admission thereto, or into any establishment in which alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
(b) This section shall not apply to the following:
(1) A person exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14‑269;
(2) The owner or lessee of the premises or business establishment;
(3) A person participating in the event, if he is carrying a gun, rifle, or pistol with the permission of the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event; and
(4) A person registered or hired as a security guard by the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event. (1977, c. 1016, s. 1; 1981, c. 412, s. 4, c. 747, s. 66; 1993, c. 539, s. 165; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)
§ 14‑269.4. Weapons on State property and in courthouses.
It shall be unlawful for any person to possess, or carry, whether openly or concealed, any deadly weapon, not used solely for instructional or officially sanctioned ceremonial purposes in the State Capitol Building, the Executive Mansion, the Western Residence of the Governor, or on the grounds of any of these buildings, and in any building housing any court of the General Court of Justice. If a court is housed in a building containing nonpublic uses in addition to the court, then this prohibition shall apply only to that portion of the building used for court purposes while the building is being used for court purposes.
This section shall not apply to:
(1) Repealed by S.L. 1997‑238, s. 3.
(1a) A person exempted by the provisions of G.S. 14‑269(b),
(2) through (4) Repealed by S.L. 1997‑238, s. 3.
(4a) Any person in a building housing a court of the General Court of Justice in possession of a weapon for evidentiary purposes, to deliver it to a law‑enforcement agency, or for purposes of registration,
(5) State‑owned rest areas, rest stops along the highways, and State‑owned hunting and fishing reservations.
Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. (1981, c. 646; 1987, c. 820, s. 1; 1993, c. 539, s. 166; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c); 1997‑238, s. 3.)
§ 14‑277.2. Weapons at parades, etc., prohibited.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person participating in, affiliated with, or present as a spectator at any parade, funeral procession, picket line, or demonstration upon any private health care facility or upon any public place owned or under the control of the State or any of its political subdivisions to willfully or intentionally possess or have immediate access to any dangerous weapon. Violation of this subsection shall be a Class 1 misdemeanor. It shall be presumed that any rifle or gun carried on a rack in a pickup truck at a holiday parade or in a funeral procession does not violate the terms of this act.
(b) For the purposes of this section the term "dangerous weapon" shall include those weapons specified in G.S. 14‑269, 14‑269.2, 14‑284.1, or 14‑288.8 or any other object capable of inflicting serious bodily injury or death when used as a weapon.
(c) The provisions of this section shall not apply to a person exempted by the provisions of G.S. 14‑269(b) or to persons authorized by State or federal law to carry dangerous weapons in the performance of their duties or to any person who obtains a permit to carry a dangerous weapon at a parade, funeral procession, picket line, or demonstration from the sheriff or police chief, whichever is appropriate, of the locality where such parade, funeral procession, picket line, or demonstration is to take place. (1981, c. 684, s. 1; 1983, c. 633; 1993, c. 412, s. 2; c. 539, s. 174; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c); 1997‑238, s. 4.)
rantingredneck
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Chris, I hate it when a new member gets "the treatment" but I'm afraid I'm going to have to give it to you. This is yet again a horribly confusing and false statement, you're on a roll buddy.
NC will honor a SC CCW permit, but subject to the same restrictions and laws as a NC permit holder (for CCW) is subjected to.
As far as open carry is concerned, which is the discussion at hand here, NC will NOT honor SC gun laws on the issue. Is open carry even legal in SC? Must not be since this will be such a novel experience for Hank.
Again, very confusing.
Fumbler
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Yeah.
Funny thing is half the residents with pistols don't even know.
They expect you to walk into the courthouse, give them the make, model, caliber, and serial number, and swear that you own it.
No proof of ownership is required. If you get rid of the gun then all y ou have to do is swear that you got rid of it.
I actually went and registered a Taurus Tracker 970 in 22lr a few years ago.
When I told the lady the caliber she tried to convince me that I didn't have to register the gun because it was a "long rifle."
Question is what happens if someone takes a look at your gun, records the info, goes to the courthouse, and swears that they own your gun...then report a burglary a month later.
If the cops find you gun but you have no proof of purchase (say you bought it off a friend without any records) then what happens?
rocket lad
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^^It's Durham...it's a jungle. I used to work in RTP, and even the gas stations around IBM at night were a bit...sketchy.
You're not familiar with the way government works, are you? Even if you do work at the SBI, you wouldn't know of any legislation until the rest of us - since the state/federal congress gets to decide the legislation.
You're not familiar with the way government works, are you? Even if you do work at the SBI, you wouldn't know of any legislation until the rest of us - since the state/federal congress gets to decide the legislation.
rantingredneck
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rantingredneck
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The two times I've come close to using my CCW weapon were both in Durham. Go figure. I don't go there anymore.
easyg
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I'm sorry, but this just sounds crazy.
The NC Bureau of Investigations has nothing to do with creating or changing current legislation.
And disclosing pending legislation in the NC House or the NC Senate is not illegal.
I'm going to have to declare that you know of NO impending legislation and that you're just spreading unsubstantiated rumors.
since the state/federal congress gets to decide the legislation... Exactly. All I was trying to say is that I know that North Carolina's governor Easly is looking at a peice of legislation in front of him that deals with NC's gun laws, an if enacted will change current laws...but I personally dont think it will happen...like i said i can't provide any information on the status of this, sorry
rocket lad
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You're not 'in the know'. Even if you were, the status of legislation is not confidential - since, you know, we're not under totalitarian rule (yet).
I'm going to have to call Bravo Sierra on this.
I'm going to have to call Bravo Sierra on this.
Easyg...please do not attack!! I was giving insight of something that the NC citizens know nothing about, nor will for sometime. Just because you haven't heard of this information yet does't mean its rumors.!!! If you continue to attack me or my credability then I will not continue this disscussion.
rantingredneck
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Chris, your previous (and evolving once corrected) answers to the OP's original question call into question your employment with the SBI. You've gone from criminal justice student to SBI agent in less than 9 posts. I'm sure you see where we're coming from here........
hankdatank1362
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The Governor is looking a a piece of legislation, that made it all the way through the state legislative bodies, and no one has heeard about it? That's odd.
rantingredneck
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Time to stop feeding the troll I think .
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easyg
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Legislation does not make it to the governor's desk without being made public.
Just stop now.
hankdatank1362
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God I love The High Road!
Titan6
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I just finished the thread can't say I am surprised any. Why are the anti's all liars and the pro gun not?
It would be a mystery if we didn't already know...
It would be a mystery if we didn't already know...
hankdatank1362
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Check the member roster... Chris was kicked outta here faster than Rosie O'Donnel at a Golden Corral!
Sorry, I thought it was funny.
Sorry, I thought it was funny.
Chris521 has left the room.
Carry on.
Carry on.
rantingredneck
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Thanks Larry
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