So where are we on case neck/shoulder annealing these days? Induction anyone?

[taliv]

I’m extremely happy with the AMP. Huge improvement over the giraud torches even though they were good. I haven’t updated to Aztec mode yet. Probably will soon

 

[taliv]

Yeah determining the quantitative state of annealed brass is quite subjective at best.

The AMP seems able to actually test the brass and set up an annealing program specific to it. It seems pretty precise too.

 

[fotheringill]

I have the Annie am overall pleased with it. The only issue I had was with the electronics for the pump attached to the pickle jar. Replacement was sent and it was pretty moldy looking. I went to ACE and got a 5 gallon bucket and a water circulating pump and all is now good. Water in is cold, water out is warmish. Never had a shut down yet.

I would love to try the blowtorch method but wife will not let me play with gas in the basement.

 

[Legionnaire]

Love the idea of an AMP, but it costs more than I care to spend. If I were a competitor it might make more sense. I'll see what prices do in a couple of years when I'm closer to retirement. In the meantime, I'll stick to the Annealeez.

 

[MCMXI]

I’m extremely happy with the AMP. Huge improvement over the giraud torches even though they were good. I haven’t updated to Aztec mode yet. Probably will soon

I don't think that those AMP machines were available when I bought the Annie close to three years ago. If I were making the choice today I would probably buy an AMP. As it stands now though, I'm getting good results so will most likely stick with what I have until something breaks or my needs change.

I hadn't realized that the company is based in New Zealand. Cool.

 

[taliv]

yeah, cool until you have to send your brass to them because your lot of lapua 6.5x47 isn't one of the 15 different lots they have listed

which is the good thing about aztec mode. don't have to send samples to them anymore.

 

[Offfhand]

I've been shooting short range (100-200-300yds) benchrest for over 40 years, competing in scores of tournaments, knowing and shooting with hundreds of fellow BR shooters, but never saw or heard of anyone annealing their brass. That is until at the SuperShoot (A major BR tournament.) match last month when a well known shooter was using a AMP unit. He used it a couple days and couldn't see any improvement in his scores and decided not to use it any more because it wasn't worth the bother. His aggs remained the same. If annealing his brass had resulted in improved scores there would have been a rush to buy more of the annealing units, as BR shooters will pay any price to improve their scores, but so far it's a non-issue with the ultra-accuracy crowd.

 

[SamT1]

I've been shooting short range (100-200-300yds) benchrest for over 40 years, competing in scores of tournaments, knowing and shooting with hundreds of fellow BR shooters, but never saw or heard of anyone annealing their brass. That is until at the SuperShoot (A major BR tournament.) match last month when a well known shooter was using a AMP unit. He used it a couple days and couldn't see any improvement in his scores and decided not to use it any more because it wasn't worth the bother. His aggs remained the same. If annealing his brass had resulted in improved scores there would have been a rush to buy more of the annealing units, as BR shooters will pay any price to improve their scores, but so far it's a non-issue with the ultra-accuracy crowd.

The guys I know shooting 1000 yard matches are annealing. Most of them shoot magnum class cartridges though that would split after 4 or so if they didn’t.

 

[FROGO207]

My main reason to anneal is to stop neck splits as well. I use subjective "feel" on inserting a bullet as a rough indicator to anneal on brass that I do not know the history of. Then every three times for bottle necked brass thereafter. Now I mostly loose my rifle brass to loose primer pockets---or less often to case head separations if I push the shoulders back too far. I never have seen an accuracy boost but I am not a long range shooter either.

 

[Walkalong]

The Benchrest crowd is shooting tight necked chambers where the brass is worked very very little, it's not uncommon for the necks to have to expand .001 or less when fired in said chambers.To put it another way, a round that measures .261in a .262 neck. Sizing is done with dies that move the body and shoulder the bare minimum as well. Just not much work hardening going on.

Annealing is more helpful in standard chambers where the brass is getting worked a lot more. Neck tension changes after two to three firings/sizings without annealing.