So, you folks don't really like Cops!

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I started viewing this forum and was a little surprised by the underlying current of dislike for peace officers. Then I read "Off Duty Police Cant't carry At University" and I am appalled.

So if you don't value LEO's how about being men and not calling my brother officers to shield you and yours, find another way. When the drunk driver T-bones your car, and traps your wife, don't cry for the boys in blue to rescue her, when your young daughter or son are missing, why don't you call the ACLU and see if they have the time to work off shift to find your lost soul. YES, be men, find another way, because you don't deserve these hard working, fearless folks.

So, SomeKid, cassandrasdaddy,Scrat,mbt2001,Mcknife,Phil DeGraves, Happiness is a warm gun, Be MEN and find another way, as for me, I will find another place to hang my hat.
 
While I agree, use caution with posts like these. It's a fast track to complaints then being banned.
 
i wont call your brother officers i have no respect for leo. sorry take the high road

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Easy there scattergun, don't let a few someone else's opinions get you so riled up.

Also, I don't have a problem with good cops, but I was watching, of all things, Cops the other day, and I had to change the channel for the arrogance and elitism that this holier than thou cop was putting on display for the whole country to see as he was belittling one of his fellow citizens. Yes I realize what they see and have to deal with every day, but that is the profession they chose.
 
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as for me, I will find another place to hang my hat.
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See ya. I don't have a problem with most cops. In fact, some of my best friends are cops.:D

The cops I have a problem with are the ones such as the three cops I saw stomp a young man into the ground in a holding cell. Saw from a distance of three feet. They weren't trying to subdue, he was drunk on his butt from the git go. They were trying to stomp him and stomp him they did.

No, I don't like those cops.

My next door neighbor when I was small was shot six times in the back of his head by a uniformed and on duty officer. Not only was the victim unarmed. He was a disabled Korean War veteran. The officer was convicted of voluntary manslaughter.

No, I don't like that cop.

I also don't much care for cops who try to defend those 'brother' cops. They're part of the problem.

Now, all the cops that honor their oaths, work diligently and often thanklessly at a dangerous job...I salute and honor them.

But, Scattergun, there are some misfits in the ranks of your brother officers. Best way to not have to listen to complaints about them is to get rid of them instead of shielding them. And that would do a world of good to stem, and abate, much of the public's distrust of the police.

As far as not calling the police in need goes...don't know if you noticed that we pay taxes that provide your paycheck. Don't want to come to my aid because I don't like some cops then the answer is simple: find a job in a line of work with no contact with the public.

Oh, forgot to mention, several of the moderators on this board are either serving police officers or retired police officers. Some of those friends I alluded to above.
 
I'm fine with the majority of "cops" mostly because I've never met them.

Of the ones I have come in contact with in my 48 years, most have been straight up and pros. But a few have been nothing but Nazis in the wrong year. Genuine jack booted thugs.

A few of the small town Sherrifs and Constables around here have a bad rap and I try to do NOTHING to attract their attention!

I don't harbor any ill to the DPS however..... yet!
 
I'm fairly indifferent towards cops. I certainly appreciate the fact that they have a difficult and dangerous job. But it's not like they were drafted. And it's not like a railroad worker or a machinists job is any less dangerous or difficult.

I respect cops no more or less than I respect a firefighter, a construction worker, a bus driver, a waiter, a shop owner. If there is extra respect to be had, it is the man/woman who must deserve it, not the uniform.

Not that you care Bob, but in this regard, you are off to a poor start in achieving any respect.


-T.
 
I have no intention of calling you or your " brother officers" to do anything but pick up the bodies.

I will find another place to hang my hat.
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Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.

BTW am I the only one that noticed this guys still listed as being online?

IBTL
 
I really don't have enough dealings with them to form any kind of opinion of them. There are bad people among all walks of life, and among all professions.
 
because you don't deserve these hard working, fearless folks.
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fearless cops are stupid cops.

show some respect dudley doo-right.

there are good folks and there are bad ones too.

there are good cops and there are bad ones too.

if i hear my front door hit my livingroom floor at 3am, forgive my forgetfulness of how meek and helpless i am until you arrive to save me, and stay out from in front of my 20" 1187.
 
Scattergun Bob,
I agree with you, but a bad cop creates five (a least) people who hates cops.
I dislike some lawmen, those who don't do their jobs.

I think most people, agree with this believe. But, they don't know what, each type of lawman 's job is: a sheriff's duties are different than a city police officer's or a state trooper's. Of course, most problems with cops are based on heresay.
 
There are always a few malcontents in any group. Unfortunately you saw a few that you mentioned, perhaps they had some unkind things to say about LEOs. Just the same, many here have had bad experiences with a few bad apples in the justice system.

If you are going to be a successful officer you need to get used to some people just generally not liking your position for whatever reason. That is their right as citizens, don't forget that you serve the public.

I understand that it can be a very dangerous, thankless job but don't try to pull the 'holier than thou' stuff. You picked your own career, no one forced you into it.

Time to be the bigger man and turn the other cheek. Learn to distance yourself from these criticisms, if you let them control you then you lose.
 
Its rather hard to like cops, when most of your exps with them is bad... I mean both casuel and profoessional( I'm not talking about getting in trouble) contact. Maybe its just my local LEA, maybe not.

I will say that a couple years back I had a wonderful EXP with a CHP officer, it was a proffesional contact. I needed him to come out and do a vin check so I could have a car removed, that was dumped on a property. He went out of his way to help me inculding going as far as to make a phone call to the county code enfrocment to get off my back until the paper work went thru. I was so pleased with him, I wrote a letter to his CO, CCed to the regional head and catered lunch for the entire office ( some 25 people). If there were more officers like him, I would like cops alot more.

Then again last year I had cop commit felony vandalism on a property, cuaght it on tape... inculding a great face shot and one of his lic plate... and magicly enough, nothing happend.
 
Glad I got here before the lock. I gotta say, This is better than I could ever write it. Thank-you, sir.

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See ya. I don't have a problem with most cops. In fact, some of my best friends are cops.

The cops I have a problem with are the ones such as the three cops I saw stomp a young man into the ground in a holding cell. Saw from a distance of three feet. They weren't trying to subdue, he was drunk on his butt from the git go. They were trying to stomp him and stomp him they did.

No, I don't like those cops.

My next door neighbor when I was small was shot six times in the back of his head by a uniformed and on duty officer. Not only was the victim unarmed. He was a disabled Korean War veteran. The officer was convicted of voluntary manslaughter.

No, I don't like that cop.

I also don't much care for cops who try to defend those 'brother' cops. They're part of the problem.

Now, all the cops that honor their oaths, work diligently and often thanklessly at a dangerous job...I salute and honor them.

But, Scattergun, there are some misfits in the ranks of your brother officers. Best way to not have to listen to complaints about them is to get rid of them instead of shielding them. And that would do a world of good to stem, and abate, much of the public's distrust of the police.

As far as not calling the police in need goes...don't know if you noticed that we pay taxes that provide your paycheck. Don't want to come to my aid because I don't like some cops then the answer is simple: find a job in a line of work with no contact with the public.

Oh, forgot to mention, several of the moderators on this board are either serving police officers or retired police officers. Some of those friends I alluded to above.
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The majority of LEO's are professionals that do a difficult job accurately and admit to thier mistakes when they mess up. Those men, like all professionals, have nothing but my utmost respect and admiration. Then there is the minority that believe that badge entitles them to unearned respect. As my late uncle often said, once the rank (badge) goes to their heads common sense says let them stay at the station and handle it yourself.

When an LEO is in the right, I'll defend them. When they do something stupid, I'll call them stupid. If that offends you, feel free to take it personally.

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So if you don't value LEO's how about being men and not calling my brother officers to shield you and yours, find another way. When the drunk driver T-bones your car, and traps your wife, don't cry for the boys in blue to rescue her, when your young daughter or son are missing, why don't you call the ACLU and see if they have the time to work off shift to find your lost soul. YES, be men, find another way, because you don't deserve these hard working, fearless folks.
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I usually would agree with you on this post but im going to call you out on some stuff that you aren't aware of or at least did not take into account. First, I have never, EVER, seen or heard of a policeman getting someone out of a crushed car. Firefighters and hazmat crews are almost always the ones sent to do such.

Don't take what i am about to say or what i said above out of context. I hold respect for those of you who put your lives in the way to keep mine safe.

Keep in mind not all your brethren are good cops either. I was pulled over in a damn parking lot learning a standard transmission. Now that's not what i was angry about, i understand why i was pulled over. That reason being he may of thought i was drunk or impaired. What ticked me off is that after he asked me if i was learning a manual and i had confirmed he continued with, "Yeah, well you suck at it." Okay, buddy, thanks. How would you like to bend over while i'll give you a good kick in your rude behind? There is no reason for an LEO to be rude for something as insignificant as that. There are good cops and bad cops.

OR how about the one cop who gave my father a huge ass fine for not using a turn signal in a lane that had just begun, in which case there is no way for anyone to be behind him. I suppose i should like him too.

But i guess it's okay for them to do that. You know, being totally outrageous over something as small as that.

And, don't i pay your brothers' salary? Oh yeah, that's right, i do. Makes me feel warm inside when i think that i some of my hard earned money goes to people who like to fine me and my family for something so stupid.
 
It's only certain cops we don't like. And they know who they are.

When ego exceeds ethics, they deserve no respect.
 
OP, you mean your brothers in blue, like the one who gave me a ticket for running a stop sign, on September 11, 2001 at 9:45 in the morning, after i heard about the disaster over the radio, while on my way to take a flight test, in Florida, and I explained to the officer what had happened, and told him my two brothers were pilots for American and United, practically screaming at him because of the tragedy, and he still gave me a ticket, while telling me he didn't care what was going on in the rest of the world, he said i should not run a no-traffic stop sign on a backroad in the middle of nowhere. this is the kind of PO you defend? or how about the PO who gave me a ticket for going FIVE miles an hour over the speed limit with my screaming 18 month old daughter in the back seat child seat, and explaining to him she needed to get to the emergency room for obvious cuts and bruises after falling down at the playground. this..........PO(S) still gave me a ticket. yes, it's true i have no love lost for PO's yes, it's true, i wil find other ways to take care of my problems. but when the problem arises that the remedy requires a PO to do his assigned job that he is paid for by my tax dollars, like traffic control and accident cleanup, you bet your buns i will call a PO. if you have a problem with this, i don't care! TUFF!!!!!
 
I just want to throw this out see what you guys think.

We've had a couple of threads like this recently. Next time it happens I think the OP should be banned W/out comment and the thread deleted. That way they don't get their soapbox as they ride out of town.

So say we all?
 
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I started viewing this forum and was a little surprised by the underlying current of dislike for peace officers. Then I read "Off Duty Police Cant't carry At University" and I am appalled.

So if you don't value LEO's how about being men and not calling my brother officers to shield you and yours, find another way. When the drunk driver T-bones your car, and traps your wife, don't cry for the boys in blue to rescue her, when your young daughter or son are missing, why don't you call the ACLU and see if they have the time to work off shift to find your lost soul. YES, be men, find another way, because you don't deserve these hard working, fearless folks.
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There is some cop hate going around that thread but some of the points raised have merit.
A police officer does have a tough job - fairly risky without adequate compensation. Some of them also use that job to make life more difficult for "regular" people doing regular people stuff.
I have seen cops hassle people for no real reason and certainly when no laws were being broke.
And I have had a family member who was pulled over by a cop and swore at because his vehicle registration was expired. Fortunately, that family member pointed out to Mr. Cop that he had misread the inspection sticker.
The cop then stomped back to his police car and sped off without even an apology.
Are those the brother officers you're referring to?
What about the one who's in trouble near me for meeting an underage girl online and having sex with her? http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/509805.html
Whether you like admitting it or not, there are bad cops too and there isn't any reason why they should be any better than anyone else in the eyes of the law.


BTW - I have nothing against police in general and one of my good friends was a cop. But if they take the pay they're subject to criticism and scrutiny and that's exactly how it should be.
It's called being a public servant.
Whether the cops like being held to the line or criticized for how they do their jobs has nothing to do with their responsibility to show up when a burglar is breaking down your door.
As long as they're getting paid by tax dollars (yours AND mine - OURS) they are responsible for doing the job.
It's like any other job - if you wake up one day and decide you can't put up with the BS anymore it's time to move on.
And I know that cops do put up with some of it - heard a story once from one who had his gun on a child molester/murder. The cop was barely able to keep from pulling the trigger.
In that scenario, I kind of wish he had less red tape to deal with.
 
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Geez Louise....

Bob, you think this forum is only about "some folks don't like cops"? Or "you folks", as you put it.

Man, if that's all it is to you, you won't miss it and it won't miss you.

As to the admonition to "be MEN" because some people have gored your favorite ox, sounds like you might benefit from your own advice and not be quite so sensitive.

Are cops really that thin-skinned about people complaining about them? Wow. That's got to be tough. Hard row to hoe and all. If I knew you better I might be tempted to suggest you'd be well-served by growing a pair - but I don't so it wouldn't be a valid suggestion.

In my line of work there are a lot of people who don't like me or what I do. God forbid I should lose sleep over it and pick up my toys and leave. That wouldn't be real grown up of me, I imagine.
 
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