When you can't take it with you.

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I'm not sure where to post this question, so mods should please move it if needed.

If you were given a "serious illness" diagnosis, and wanted to find the best way to part with your precious possessions in a hurry, what would you folks suggest.

I mean, I know there's the classified listings on here and various auction sites, but I'm only accustomed to AQUIRING the firearms (in person ),and NEVER selling the firearms. So, I'm really trying to find a best/better method if anyone knows of one. I have no children to leave any to and will probably need funds ASAP. I don't think raffels are legal in my area, but would appreciate any input from those who have ever faced the need to sell an "estate" in advance ?

Sometimes you hear horror stories about selling your guns online and such, and Lord knows I don't need any added headaches right now. What can you tell me ?

Thank you.
 
There are several firearms auction sites as I'm sure you know. It would take a bit of time photographing each gun and compiling information on each but that would probably realize the highest prices for you.

If you're really in a hurry you could go to any of a number of reputable dealers and ask them to make you a package deal. Of course this will leave a lot of money on the table but if time is of the essence.....

I hope this is just a "what if" scenario. I've also thought about this from time to time, as I suppose all of us do as we reach a certain age and I really don't know what I'd do. Of course I have a wife and several kids to split it all up. Or fight over it, as the case might be.

Good luck whatever happens.
 
Sorry, I'm nowhere near AZ, but do appreciate your reply.

I hate being put in this situation, but what can a man do.
Figuratively speaking, you watch the cracks in the sidewalk everyday of your life but miss the piano falling from a window onto your head.:(

Unfortunately for me, MEDALGUY, this is NOT a what if scenario.
 
Why would you not just give them to your family members?

I did a huge downsize when I got inot my 60's, and my kids, grandkids, nephew and niece got some nice things I really didn't have any more use for. I knew I was never going hunting again, so my hunting guns went to my two sons and daughter. A few other guns went to other family as did tools and other stuff.

If you know you can't take them with you, why not just gift them to those you love? It's not like you can take the money with you. It's just stuff in the long run, so don't obsess over inanimate objects.

Carl.
 
I would advertise in the local classifieds or gun forums(if your willing to ship) or maybe find a gun shop to sell them to, the first two would be more hassle and possibly take longer then the last but more then likely will get you more money for your guns.
 
Knockdown what is your general location? I know several people of more than modest means who might be interested in an estate purchase. If its something they're interested I'm sure they would pay better than a dealer just looking to resell. They're east coast so if you're close shoot me a list in a PM with an email (generic if you want for your privacy/protection) they can contact you on if they are interested and I will pass it on. You can take it from there.

Might want to add what you're looking to get for the bundle or piecemeal.

Oh, and Im sorry to hear of your predicament. I hope things turn around for you.
 
No will or estate executor? No one designated to take care of your affairs both pre-death and after death?

If this is in fact, like you posted, and not a "what if scenario" then NOW is the time to take care of some of these details while you still have the conscious ability to do so....

Contact an attorney, get together with that person and designate a family member or close friends for "your affairs"

Then - it's time to notify that designated family member or close friend and make them aware...

Then it's time to call the local Hospice and let the know what your "needs" are - DNR? OrganDonation? Burial/Cremation?
 
Carl Levitian: Why would you not just give them to your family members?
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Cherish your family members my friends. In this grand theatre we've built for ourselves, it's hard to balance "living for today" and still "make a living" for your tomorrow.

I'm in my mid-40's..Mother is the only "family" left. No kids..or misc family to speak of.

I only found out about my current situation today. There's alot to absorb right now. I still have to meet with the "Multi Dicipline Team" but I know the sales pitches they tend to put out there for folks. Analogous to burning down the whole house to put out a grease fire in the kitchen. I've lost too many friends and family to not have a cynical attitude.

I'm the type would rather " go out" with hypothermia in the mountains of mother nature, than to fizzle out in an ICU at some hospital.

When I do mobilze, I'll probably need to take a few backups along for the ride, so I'll need to figure out what goes and what won't.

Sorry about the rant...but thanks for listening.
 
Toforo said:
No will or estate executor? No one designated to take care of your affairs both pre-death and after death?

If this is in fact, like you posted, and not a "what if scenario" then NOW is the time to take care of some of these details while you still have the conscious ability to do so....

Contact an attorney, get together with that person and designate a family member or close friends for "your affairs"

Then - it's time to notify that designated family member or close friend and make them aware...

Then it's time to call the local Hospice and let the know what your "needs" are - DNR? OrganDonation? Burial/Cremation?
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Yeah I have a Durable Power of Attorney and a Will. Only thing is, my soul mate of 30 years says wherever I go, she goes! So our documents are a moot point.

We pray for a miracle but we prepare for the worst.

We plan on liquidating most everything, including home thats paid for, retirement accounts, etc. Anything left gets donated to a favorite wildlife / outdoor institution.
 
I'm sorry to hear such bad news... Maybe you should take a few days to adjust to the news before you really do anything. We will be praying for you.
 
KNOCKDOWN said:
Yeah I have a Durable Power of Attorney and a Will. Only thing is, my soul mate of 30 years says wherever I go, she goes! So our documents are a moot point.

We pray for a miracle but we prepare for the worst.

We plan on liquidating most everything, including home thats paid for, retirement accounts, etc. Anything left gets donated to a favorite wildlife / outdoor institution.
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Well then you BOTH need to make these arrangements and it's even MORE important that a qualified executor carries out the post-life wishes you've stated here.
 
BleysAhrens said:
I'm sorry to hear such bad news... Maybe you should take a few days to adjust to the news before you really do anything. We will be praying for you.
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Good advice. Thank you for the prayers.

We are a bit lost in deep dispair right now. But it's not something we haven't discussed long before now.

We'd like to hope that we can be looking back at this post years from now and actually be able to exhale in gratitude and grace.
 
KNOCKDOWN:

Sorry to hear of your troubles. I've been there. I had a whole team of doctors tell me I'd never work again. They "urinated" me off so bad I fired the whole lot of them.

The next team of doctors provided the treatments and surgeries as indicated. After I had made a recovery, I went back to thank one of the doctors. He looked at me in absolute shock!! Then he retorted, "You know, I don't mind telling you now, that not a one of us thought you would make it!!"

The best advice I can give, per experience, never make a snap-decision. Get the facts, and the options. Weigh them, and make an informed decision.

Geno
 
KNOCKDOWN,

What State are you located? Perhaps one of the forum members can recommend a honest FFL who can sell the guns for you on Gunbroker or one of the other auction sites for a percentage of selling price. This way you will get market value without having to expend energy on liquidating. I hope everything works out for you. You have my prayers.
 
Knockdown - I wish you the absolute best. As a healthcare provider, I've seen more than I can count outlive their doctors' dire predictions.

IF it comes down to selling your valuables, your best bet is to go where the customers are - and for firearms that still means gun shows. Post a 'private seller' sign so people know they won't have to hassle with the check - of course you won't sell to ineligible people, but there's lots of folks who just don't want the hassle, or for the .gov to see what they buy and when - price your stuff high and be prepared to haggle - and to drive a hard bargain.

Take care, and Good Luck!
 
KNOCKDOWN- You have my prayers too. I would also +1 on the auction. They will bring you top $ at most I have been to. If your anywhere near me let me know if I can do anything for you, I also work in the medical field. The most important thing you can do is to stay positive always look for a better solution by researching everything.
 
Sorry for your predicament.

I am 45, and have survived a potentially serious bone tumor, and other issues. My wife and I decided, since we do not have any kids, to choose a deserving friend to bequeath our worldly goods. Hers is a woman she has mentored for about 6 years, and mine is a young man who is a very talented musician in my church band. I know that he will appreciate the instruments, tools, and other items.

We try to imagine what good we can do with our stuff after we won't need it anymore. If it comes down to turning a house full of commodities into hard cash, it will take time researching outlets, and determining how much more work you really want to do before you can just relax and go to Jesus. God bless you my friend.
 
KNOCKDOWN-Just my $0.02, but if I were you, I might start by doing up the photos for an auction site, or seeing what offers you get from local stores, but stop there until you know more about your prognosis. Have the groundwork in place to do things quickly, but hold off on any selling til you know you have to. As others have said, it's still a bit of a shock, I wouldn't do anything rash as yet. If you located in western WA or OR, pm me, I'm tapped out at the moment, but I do know some people with more disposable income. other than that, take care, keep your head up, and prayers are on the way for you and your partner. God Bless-RC
 
I am sorry to hear about your situation. I also recommend getting a second or even third opinion about your prognosis and treatment, as doctors are people too, and not infallible.

How much you get paid when you sell again depends on how badly you need to sell it, and how much work you're willing to put into the sale. At the lower end you have people who need cash today because they're hours away from eviction - they sell the gun at a pawn shop or gun store, and end up with 25-30% of the dealer's resale price for the gun. If you take your own pictures, advertise on GB or AA, answer all of the sellers's questions, (hopefully) find a buyer and receive payment, pack up, and eventually ship the gun yourself then you end up with the most bang for your buck.

Finally, if you're not interested in doing the selling yourself, and you need the cash soon but not immediately, you can consign a gun with a dealer. You and he can work out a minimum price based on current sales, he will put it on the sale floor as well as advertising on GB or AA. Once the gun sells he will deduct his consignment fee (usually a percentage) and any auction listing fees, and you will receive whatever is left.
 
One thing is certain within this thing of life: none of us are getting out of it alive. You may consider yourself fortunate in many ways, having the foreknowledge that time draws near. Many are taken in the instant, suddenly without warning. They would wish they were prepared, but too late.

I see your concern about what might become of your worldly goods, but really it's of no consequence. I'm more than familar with terminal illness on a personal level. Yes, I desire to bless others at my time of departing but that isn't the primary interest. It was far more important to determine was what my permanent destination was going to be after my departure. I wanted to know, so I sought to find out.

Just like we test a firearm to be sure it's dependable, so I did in my research. Within that I discovered that I could know with certainty where I was going and much of what lays ahead, forever. By arriving at that sure understanding all those things of this world changed in perspective, becoming secondary to that which is most important.

Thereafter I may live by the evidence of things hoped for, the substance of things not yet seen, satisfied in my heart that all is well with my soul. Within that is true peace of mind. I wish you the best in your own journey and in your search.
 
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