"soft" primers

[carsten1911]

Hello everyone, I am just starting to reload, so any advice is welcome.
My first loading problem occured with used IMI (military) cases: The primer pocket is very tight, some primers can only be seated (RCBS handprimer) with a maximum of force...so much i feared the primers might go off! The primers used were CCI large pistol (for 45acp). I tried Remingtons, too, they do lots better. Are there other brands you would recommend to try with the IMI cases?

Thanks for all hints!

Carsten

 

[The Bushmaster]

Winchester? Did you check for a primer crimp in the primer pocket? Some military brass have the primers crimped in although I have never seen .45 ACP military brass with a primer crimp. The other thing is...How much is a lot of pressure to seat? I have some cases that seat priners quite easy and some that are a tad tight. Then there are some that the primer just fall in. Those I toss...

 

[nitesite]

Hello and welcome to the forum. I see this is your first post and it is a very good question.

I have not seen .45ACP cases with crimped in primers. If yours are crimped, you will need to ream out the pocket with a tool that takes the edge off. It only needs done one once. It will be easy after that.

Northern Bavaria is one of the most beautiful places on Earth. I visited there many times when I lived in Stuttgart.

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Hallo und Willkommen zum Forum. Ich sehe, daß dieses Ihr erster Pfosten ist und es eine sehr gute Frage ist.

Ich habe nicht 45ACP Fälle mit quetschverbunden in den Zündkapseln gesehen. Wenn Ihr quetschverbunden werden, müssen Sie aus der Tasche mit einem Werkzeug erweitern, das den Rand beseitigt. Es benötigt nur getanes einmal. Es ist nachher daß einfach.

Nordbayern ist einer der schönsten Plätze auf Earth. Ich besuchte dort viele Male, als ich in Stuttgart wohnte.

 

[Bronson7]

Carsten, Federals are probably known as the softest, but Bushmaster is correct. You should look to solving the original problem rather than curing the symptom. On the cheap, one of those little Lee case deburring/chamfer tools work great for removing raised edges caused by a crimp and judiciously used, will give you a slight lead-in for the primer.
Bronson7

 

[carsten1911]

crimped primers

Hello Bushmaster,

yes, the primers were crimped in (and sealed)...after seating the new primers there is even a little brass burr showing and protruding. but the burrs can be just rubbed of with a rough cloth, so this wont cause trouble, i presume.

The force I need to seat the CCI primers? Two hand pressure nearly at the maximum i can do. Well, i aint no craftsman, but I do lots of digging and hammering round the house, so i guess i am 10 % above 9-yo schoolgirl level here. As I said: I REALLY feared some primer to go off (in these tough cases I took care to have a table between the primers and my face).

Carsten

 

[The Bushmaster]

carstan1911. Do you, by chance, have a twist drill bit handy. Oh. say in about 3/8" (US) or 1/2" (US). A quick twist with a drill bit will do the trick.

Bronson7 suggests a camfur/debur tool. I have one of those and they work, but your fingers will get tired real quick.

 

[Smokey Joe]

Setting off primers

Carsten 1911--It's smart to be cautious, especially when you're not sure, double especially when dealing with explosives like primers. So, good on you proceeding carefully.

Primers are set off by a sharp blow, however--You need not worry much about setting them off while slowly forcing them into the primer pockets of cases. The worst you'll get out of it, IMHO, might be a primer that gets mashed, deformed, and then cannot be properly inserted.

I once put in a primer sideways, believe it or not. You'd think I'd have noticed the extra effort needed, but no, I just plowed ahead. When it was over, I had the primer mashed flat into the primer pocket--and ruined, of course--but the primer did NOT go off.

In disposing of unwanted primers, I hit them with a hammer. Using eye/ear/hand protection. It's surprising, how hard they must be hit to be detonated that way. A gentle rap won't do it. A sharp blow is required.

So IMHO, you're OK to insert those tight primers; just go slow. I'd use ear/eye/hand protection if I were nervous about it.

 

[carsten1911]

Problem solved....

Thanks to you all guys, i think your hints will solve the problem (and ease my worries about the primers doing nasty things...).

@Nitesite: Thanks for your kind words, sadly I cant say anything about Alabama: Never been to the US until now...