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  1. Ruger 15151

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    I am relatively new to reloading and have keep extremely good notes for my load data, information and tricks from other reloaders, stacks of targets for grouping information, etc..

    I have seen several inexpensive programs that work with windows that allow you to integrate load data with pictures of groupings, etc... But I have a MAC.

    Does anyone know of similar programs that will run on my iPhone and Mac?
     
  2. BigMacMI

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    i use ammo tracker. mostly for my pet loads. can add sessions and pics of targets that I like. I don't necessarily track # of rounds fired tho... it's more for tracking the ones i really like
     
  3. muncie21

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    Eventually you'll want to chrono your loads.

    When that time comes, get a chrono that has an app integrated to your smartphone or tablet. I have a Caldwell Precision that integrates to my iphone. With the app you can capture load specific data, chrono data and embed pictures of your targets. IMO pretty good deal for ~$100
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    That caldwell is on my short list! I think I can make a backstop for use at my parents house to test small batches. App looks nice too
     
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    I just paid about $120 for that kit. I got it today & it looks used. I'll have to read the disruption again to see if I missed that detail.
     
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    https://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/Open office has an excel, word and powder point copy for free and works on Mac...should do for the moment. Power Point will allow you to make slides and you can convert them to PDF and store them in a file Titled "Loads" or what ever suits your fancy. Excel will lay it out in spreadsheet.
     
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    Pretty hard to beat Filemaker Pro and little work setting up your database.
     
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    Thanks.... but I'm not looking for spreadsheets... I have Microsoft office.
     
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    You'll probably have to set up your own database, unfortunately. I've looked before and found nothing. The free Libre Office suite comes with a database application; the Mac version of MS Office doesn't include Access, which is MS's desktop database software.
     
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    Correct. Thanks AZAndy.
     
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    That is very cool indeed. When I finally manage to shoot my chronograph, I'll replace it with that one. Thanks for the pointer!
     
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    I use MS Excel for al of my loads as I am working them, then after I get some results, I add then to a MS Access database that I use to keep all of the information I have gathered. The Excel approach is easy to use. Access is a little harder, and I am still tweaking mine. Also, there is a source I use: www.burnsoft.com - Joe (The Owner/Developer) has a Firearm Inventory Application, as well as a Reloading Database Appliation.
     
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    I think that's burnsoft dot net. Windows only, it appears.
     
  14. nineteeneleven

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    I use a Google Docs spreadsheet. That way it's accessible from any device, and even my phone if I want to add notes right at the range. I have it set up with a tab for each gun I reload for, a row for each bullet, and columns for the load details. If I want to store a photo of the target, I can snap a pic and upload it to Google's online storage.
     
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    Thanks everyone for the ideas. It looks like although there are several programs available for Windows, no one has found a program specifically for Macs.
     
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    It's possible to run Windows stuff on OS X using Wine. I've done it with some utilities like GRC's DNS benchmark. Might be worth a try; won't cost you anything but a little time.
     
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    Why are chronographs important for load development?

    Especially when several people shooting the same stuff will often have over 50 fps spread in average velocity and standard deviation. Who's numbers best represent the loads real data?
     
  18. muncie21

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    With all the variables that come with reloading, I personally feel that a chrono is important to validate your work. I've also recently read about changes to powder (Prima V being a recent example) from batch to batch, which impacted overall velocity

    If you're using load data from one of the reputable load manuals (versus us yahoos on the web) I'm sure your load would be in the ball park of the manual, provided all the components are the same, the ambient temp is in the ballpark and the firearm is similar.
     
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    I use the high tech version as I did in College. A Notebook and a pencil.:)

    Chrono data is reordered on printed sheets for the shots and data.

    I am not bringing a laptop or tablet to the range, sucks the fun out of it.

    Heck we didn't even have calculators.
     
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    I have found a few good uses:

    1. Knowing muzzle velocity allows me, through more physics calculations, to figure kinetic energy (use of KE on terminal performance is disputed) as the bullet velocity decreases with distance, ultimately finding a point where the round may no longer be considered "effective" on game.

    2. It save me $, even if just a little. For example, if the gain in muzzle velocity variance from 43.0-44.0 gr or H4350 is negligible, then I will go with the lesser of the two simply to squeeze a few more rounds out of a pound of powder as well as to keep pressures down to the lesser if the gain is not worth it.

    3. My chronograph has shown me round consistencies that I would not have otherwise known. For example, when loading .357 Magnum rounds for my carbine, through many rounds of testing, I have found that my velocities are not only more consistent with one powder over another, but also that gap tightens even further when different primers are combined. All of this would have been unknown without a chronograph.

    4. Using a chronograph has sped up round development while reducing cost in both time and money, ensuring efficiency with every free minute and dollar that I have.

    *Note: I also have seen that my velocities are seldom as high as a loading manual advertises due to both shooting conditions (their testing is done indoors in a controlled environment) and the rifle/handgun used, as their are often custom/long-barreled test weapons. I do not use software, just a plain old pen and paper to record data.

    Hope this helps.
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    That's what I use. Allows you set up all the different fields you want to enter data in. It can even export to a web page, so you can reference it from anywhere.
     
  22. Bart B.

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    Here's the variables in chronographing loads:

    Barreled actions clamped in place that don't recoil produce the highest average muzzle velocitiy, lowest extreme spreads and lowest standard deviations. Zero barrel movement while bullets go through it. Best for assessing velocity. Sometimes used by commercial ammo companies.

    Complete rifles or barreled actions fired in free recoil (untouched by humans) give lowest average muzzle velocity, medium extreme spread and medium standard deviations. Maximum but somewhat repeatable barrel movement while bullets go through it. Satisfactory for measuring velocity. Sometimes used by ammo companies.

    Rifles held against ones shoulder resting stop something on a bench give medium average muzzle velocity, highest extreme spread and highest standard deviations. Medium but quite variable barrel movement while bullets go through it. Worst for checking velocity. Most common way used. Same rifle and ammo. Produces wide range of velocity numbers across several people.

    There can be a 4X spread in numbers between any two ways rifles are held when fired.
     
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    No.
     
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    I use an iPhone iPad app called reload-it. It's pretty cool. Keeps all my loads in order and you can store pictures of targets etc. it also will sync so if you make notes in the field on the phone then it will also be on iPad later.
     
  25. Ruger 15151

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    I have seen that app in iTunes. For $2.99, it can help to try it out. Thanks!
     
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