Sold my Glock 43 & 36. What metal frame carry gun should I get?

[5-SHOTS]

Used CZ 2075 Rami.

 

[5-SHOTS]

Arex Rex Zero Compact.

 

[Tallball]

Beretta 92 has an aluminum frame.

 

[12Bravo20]

Beretta 92 has an aluminum frame.

Yes it is and the M9 has survived 32 years of abuse from GI's around the world.

 

[kerreckt]

Star BKM is reliable accurate.

 

[12Bravo20]

Yes the Star BKM and the Star Firestars are accurate pistols and reliable. The down side is the lack of parts since none have been made for a long time.

If one wants a modern Star Model D in .380 or 9mm the buy a Kimber Micro or Sig P938/238. Those three along with the original Colt Pony, Iver Johnson, and Firearms International versions are all based off the Star Model D. The Colt, Iver Johnson, and FI pistols were actually joint ventures with Star using some Star parts. The discontinued Springfield Armory 911 is also base on the Star Model D and the same as the Kimber Micro and Sig P938/238.

A little history on the Star Model D. http://star-firearms.com/firearms/guns/d/index.shtml

 

[Nature Boy]

If it was me……

 

[sevt_chevelle]

Yes it is and the M9 has survived 32 years of abuse from GI's around the world.

But can you fight with it?
I wonder if anyone ever told Sig or more importantly those guys using the P series guns that you can not fight with them.

 

[12Bravo20]

But can you fight with it?
I wonder if anyone ever told Sig or more importantly those guys using the P series guns that you can not fight with them.

GI's have been fighting with the M9 since 1989 during Operation Just Cause though Desert Storm, the second Gulf War, Afghanistan and any other spot that we have sent troops to fight. They have held up just fine.

And yes I have used the 1911A1 and M9 in combat. Both served equally well.

 

[citizenconn]

GI's have been fighting with the M9 since 1989

Yes I used one in the Army but was never particularly fond of the trigger. It may be blasphemy but I do not like DA/SA or DA triggers much at all. So I would prefer a SAO option. But....if it were a nice pistol I could learn to cock the trigger first I suppose. That is what I do when I use my Dad's nice older model Tanfoglio.

I have been looking at the Beretta 92FS Compact and it looks very nice, though I would prefer something in 45acp for my midsized carry gun. I have acquired a Commander sized 1911 in .45 acp that I am using for now, but I'd like something just a bit smaller.

I also really like the Sig P210 Carry plus it is SAO and a bit smaller than my 1911 Commander. Just wish it was also available in .45 acp.

Thanks for the recommendations.

 

[citizenconn]

If it was me……

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That looks great. What model is it? Am I correct in assuming from the trigger its DA/SA? I much prefer SAO but could learn to adapt for a nice enough pistol/trigger.

 

[citizenconn]

CZ 75 PCR, CZ P-01, used SIG-Sauer P239 or P228, SIG-Sauer P229, Beretta 92FS Compact, used Mauser M2.

I do like the Beretta 92FS Compact but not fond of a DA/SA trigger. I would have to try it to see if I could adapt to it.
I'm also looking at the SAO Sig P210 Carry, so there are a few 9mm options for a mid-sized carry gun but not a lot I'm found in 45acp besides 1911 style pistols (I like 1911s a lot).
I have a Commander sized 1911 in .45 acp but would like one with a 3.5-4" barrel and shorter grip but still in .45 acp.

 

[12Bravo20]

Yes I used one in the Army but was never particularly fond of the trigger. It may be blasphemy but I do not like DA/SA or DA triggers much at all. So I would prefer a SAO option

I always shot the 1911 better than the M9. The 1911 just fits my hands better and yes it has a better trigger too. I stick with compact 1911s for anything in 45ACP. I do like my Sig P938 for ease of concealment and it is pretty accurate for a compact pistol. And for something in between the two, I still use my Star Firestar pistols in 9mm and 40 S&W.

 

[citizenconn]

I always shot the 1911 better than the M9. The 1911 just fits my hands better and yes it has a better trigger too. I stick with compact 1911s for anything in 45ACP. I do like my Sig P938 for ease of concealment and it is pretty accurate for a compact pistol. And for something in between the two, I still use my Star Firestar pistols in 9mm and 40 S&W.

I have a Commander 1911 in .45 ACP that I love but is just a bit bigger than what I am ultimately looking for: 3.5-4" barrel, 6 round framed 1911 but still chambered in .45 ACP. I haven't looked extensively yet, but I mainly see those in 9mm.

For the smaller pocket gun to replace the Glock 43 there are a lot more 9mm options, and I'm looking at the Sig P938 (as you mentioned), a Kimber Micro 9 or similar 1911 style pistol with an extended mag shelf for my pinky.

 

[12Bravo20]

I suggest taking a look at the Rock Island Armory Compact 1911s (CS series). They have a 3.5" barrel and 7 round magazines in 45. I have had my RIA GI Compact for around 10 years now and love it for when I want to EDC a 45.

When it comes to the compact 9mm Kimber Micro and Sig P938, look for the one that has all the features you want from the factory. Otherwise they are pretty much equal. At the time I bought my P938 I wanted factory night sights. The Sig came with them but the Kimber did not.

 

[citizenconn]

I suggest taking a look at the Rock Island Armory Compact 1911s (CS series). They have a 3.5" barrel and 7 round magazines in 45. I have had my RIA GI Compact for around 10 years now and love it for when I want to EDC a 45.

When it comes to the compact 9mm Kimber Micro and Sig P938, look for the one that has all the features you want from the factory. Otherwise they are pretty much equal. At the time I bought my P938 I wanted factory night sights. The Sig came with them but the Kimber did not.

Thanks for the recommendations. I had been planning to look at the RIA options. I figured if anyone has the setup I wanted they would. So thanks for the reminder.

As far as the Micro 9, I'm leaning towards this one:

 

[12Bravo20]

You won't go wrong with that. I personally prefer night sights over fiber optic sights. For me the red fiber optic sights were the worst as far as visibility in lower light conditions. They were even dim at the local indoor range for me.

 

[5-SHOTS]

I do like the Beretta 92FS Compact but not fond of a DA/SA trigger. I would have to try it to see if I could adapt to it.
I'm also looking at the SAO Sig P210 Carry, so there are a few 9mm options for a mid-sized carry gun but not a lot I'm found in 45acp besides 1911 style pistols (I like 1911s a lot).
I have a Commander sized 1911 in .45 acp but would like one with a 3.5-4" barrel and shorter grip but still in .45 acp.

This could be a problem since most 9mm compact pistols that have alloy frames are of the DA/SA type, the Mauser M2 being one of the few exceptions since it is an SA striker fired with optional safety but the Mauser M2 is .40S&W or .45ACP.
At this point your options narrow down to 9mm 1911 Commander size (or smaller) type of pistols. There may also be compact double stack 9mm 1911s.
I don't think the SIG P210 Compact is actually that compact.
Another SA pistol with alloy frame is the Pardini GT9 which, however, is a full size, similar in size if not larger than the Beretta 92FS.
However, I believe that the CZ still makes the 75B Compact model with the alloy frame, which can be carried cocked and locked.

 

[citizenconn]

This could be a problem since most 9mm compact pistols that have alloy frames are of the DA/SA type, the Mauser M2 being one of the few exceptions since it is an SA striker fired with optional safety but the Mauser M2 is .40S&W or .45ACP.
At this point your options narrow down to 9mm 1911 Commander size (or smaller) type of pistols. There may also be compact double stack 9mm 1911s.
I don't think the SIG P210 Compact is actually that compact.
Another SA pistol with alloy frame is the Pardini GT9 which, however, is a full size, similar in size if not larger than the Beretta 92FS.
However, I believe that the CZ still makes the 75B Compact model with the alloy frame, which can be carried cocked and locked.

I may end up with something like this Rock Island for the .45 ACP with 3.6" barrel. I'll have to try to find one to see if it fits my hand. I love 1911s but was hoping to find a non-1911 option as well.

 

[citizenconn]

You won't go wrong with that. I personally prefer night sights over fiber optic sights. For me the red fiber optic sights were the worst as far as visibility in lower light conditions. They were even dim at the local indoor range for me.

Thanks for the feedback. I will probably end up with a drawer full of different models because of my OCD. I keep vacillating between my top 5 versions, but I like the ESV a lot as well.
Black -


and Gray both -

 

[Nature Boy]

That looks great. What model is it? Am I correct in assuming from the trigger its DA/SA? I much prefer SAO but could learn to adapt for a nice enough pistol/trigger.

CZ 75 PCR, DA/SA with decocker

 

[white smoke]

EMP 3. I really like mine. Very well thought out pistol. Very accurate and reliable.

 

[Shivahasagun]

The difference in weight is only a few ounces, and it's to the steel gun's advantage. Lightweight handguns might be easy to carry, but they're no good to fight with.

Name one.



I didn't write that aluminum isn't dependable. Heck, the plastic is dependable.
The example I gave were some Sphinx that are steel-framed.

Please start a thread with a supposition about how alluminum isn't a good material for guns intended to be used in combat.

I look forward to it.

Maybe another about how it shouldn't be used in combat vehicles, aircraft, ships, submarines, missiles, spacecraft, etc.

 

[12Bravo20]

Please start a thread with a supposition about how alluminum isn't a good material for guns intended to be used in combat.

I look forward to it.

Maybe another about how it shouldn't be used in combat vehicles, aircraft, ships, submarines, missiles, spacecraft, etc.

Pretty much all US armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, and self propelled howitzers are all made out of armor grade aluminum that has also been properly heat treated and tempers.

And most reputable pistol manufacturers will use 7075 aluminum for their pistol frames that has been properly heat treated and tempered. Plus when anodized, the anodizing also acts like case hardening (to a certain extent).

 

[citizenconn]

Pretty much all US armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, and self propelled howitzers are all made out of armor grade aluminum that has also been properly heat treated and tempers.

And most reputable pistol manufacturers will use 7075 aluminum for their pistol frames that has been properly heat treated and tempered. Plus when anodized, the anodizing also acts like case hardening (to a certain extent).

Help, my metal carry gun thread has been hijacked...
Someone call the AFT!!