Glock 43/26 versus Taurus PT111 G2

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About a year and a half ago I acquired a Glock 43 via trade at the LGS. It was my first Glock. I liked it. I started carrying it OWB during cooler weather. I like the sights and trigger. I shoot it fairly well, by my standards.

I started to think that I could probably carry a double-stack pistol that was otherwise the same size just as easily. My BiL likes his PT111 G2 a lot and carries it daily. I've read good things about them. I happened to run across a good deal on one with a stainless slide (the blued finish is one thing that definitely has NOT gotten glowing reviews) and purchased it. It was brand-new, and I usually buy used, but it was a good deal ($217 IIRC).

Then, a few weeks ago, I foolishly allowed myself to find a good deal on a Glock 26. It was barely fired, with the box and everything. I paid $376 for it (I originally mistyped $276, sorry), and my friend at the LGS gave me two magazines in exchange for the laser sight that was on it - I didn't want it, but it came with the gun.

Somehow I ended up with all three, and I'd barely shot the G2 or the 26. I was planning on going to the range with a friend today, and figured I would use the opportunity to do some compare and contrast shooting.

The three pistols are of similar size. The two double-stacks are obviously wider, and the Taurus has a grip that's around an inch longer than the Glocks. Even though my hands are super huge, with the little Pearce grip extensions added to the Glock magazines I could hold all three just fine. They all have good sights and decent triggers.

I like the Glock 43. The magazine holds six rounds, IIRC. I was shooting poorly today (shaky hands, probably due to meds), but put several five round strings into roughly fist-sized groups at seven yards, no problem. My friend who was with me preferred it out of the three, since he carries IWB and it was slimmer.

I like the Taurus PT111 G2. The magazine holds 12 rounds, IIRC.The sights are possibly the best of the three, and it fits my hand the best, due to the slightly longer grip. The trigger is a little weird. There is a little hesitation at the very beginning (the trigger dingus, I believe), then a longish takeup, then a nice soft click. I put eight five-round strings into roughly fist-sized groups at seven yards, no problem.

I like the Glock 26. The magazine holds ten rounds, IIRC. It feels just like the 43, but a little thicker. I easily put eight five-round strings into a roughly fist-sized group at seven yards, no problem... and they were the smallest fists of the three. I shot it the best, and of the three it felt the best to shoot.

(It should be noted that I've shot hundreds of rounds of ammo, mostly reloads and cheap target stuff, through the 43 since I've owned it, with zero malfunctions. I've shot about 50 rounds through the 26, and about 90 through the Taurus, including reloads, cheap target stuff, and some horrible steel-cased stuff that I bought by mistake. Neither one has malfunctioned.)

It will be 100 degrees (or hotter) around here just about every day until it's October or so. In this weather I prefer cargo shorts with my LCR in the pocket. I'll make sure to shoot the G26 from time to time. By the time the weather is cooler I'll have put at least a few hundred more rounds through it, and it will become my new "OWB under the unbuttoned shirt" pistol. I really like the DeSantis "Scabbard" holsters, so that's what I'll use.

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Great write up. Thanks for posting. I have found the Taurus feels slimmer in the grip than the G26. But I really like how it feels in the hand and mine has been absolutely reliable. You got an amazing deal on your G26! Three great guns overall. Congrats!
 
If I found a G26 for $276 I'd not only take it and run but wouldn't hesitate to sell off your other two.

Sounds like you shoot it the best and that's a smoking deal.
 
Thanks y'all! And my profound apologies, I meant to type $376! I was going to hold out until I could get a used G26 for $350. I've seen them go for that, but it was likely to be a long wait. This one looked barely used, had box, papers, cleaning brush, and two magazines. It also had a laser on it, but I (correctly) assumed that my friend at the LGS would be more than happy to give me a couple of mags for it and install it on the used G26 that he was asking too much for... $500 or so. He gave me a G26 mag and a G19 mag.

Before I shot them together I thought I would prefer the Taurus. It fits my hand well, I like the sights, and the trigger is nice and soft, if a little odd. I can certainly understand why people like them. The mags seem really good, too.

But the best shooter for me is the one I should pick. I ordered a little thingie to make the G19 mag fit into the 26 without a gap. That would be a nice reload to keep in my pocket. :)
 
A Glock 19 is only 2 more ounces than the G2 and same width as your 26...something to consider.

For me, the 19 carries better than the 26, holds 5 more rounds and gives you a much better grip to grab from holster under duress...but a 26 is also great.
 
I would be surprised if the G-26 were not better than the Taurus. FWIW I own the Taurus. It is okay & it works despite the bad trigger.
 
All good guns, keep the G43 and get the G26. I like the PT111G2 also, but will probably buy a G19 when I go back to 9mm.
 
To me the PT111 G2 and the Glock 26 are just different guns. One is around $200-$250 brand-new and one is $500-$600 brand-new. I am lucky enough that I don't have to buy one or the other; I actually bought both so that I could compare them. I'm very fortunate. According to what I've read, my examples are pretty typical. If someone had to scrimp and save, and after much hunting paid $350 used plus about $50 FFL fee and shipping for the Glock, good on them. If someone could only afford $200-250 plus fees or tax for the Taurus, they probably got a good gun for their money.

FWIW, my opinion is that's a big difference between having "spare" money and not. I can buy a cheap handgun, and in the end, whether or not it's a good one doesn't really make a difference to me; I have plenty of others. Back when I was young and poor, if I spent money on an inexpensive firearm that wasn't mechanically reliable, the result was financially devastating and I might not have been able to keep my family safe as a result.

While I'm happy to have found my preferred firearm of the two, I'm also happy to feel (according to my research) that a less financially fortunate person can purchase the Taurus and defend themselves and their family effectively. They probably need it more than I do.

My BiL is a good example. He lives waaay out in the country. He's a firefighter and his wife is a secretary. They get paid squat. They have two sons, and adopted two other boys who were in desperate situations. He was able to piece together enough money to buy the Taurus G2 for SD and HD. He had bought an inexpensive Savage bolt action 30-06 rifle to hunt with before he got married. His parents gave him a lever-action 44 magnum rifle (it's a Rossi, IIRC) as a Christmas gift. As a result, his family is kept safe, and when possible he feeds them with deer (30-06) and hogs (44 magnum). I am happy to live in a country where even low-income families can protect and feed themselves with decent-quality affordable firearms.
 
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I have 4 glocks and am drooling over the 5th one I want . I can not make my 9mm glocks jam ftf etc. I have loaded a mixture of 5 different brands including steel cased and a hand full of old dirty rounds I reloaded 20 years ago and both my 26 and 17 run though them like candy my G20 has run every thing I put through it. there is a locally made 380 ammo that my 42 will fail to eject once in a great while every thing else it is just as reliable my other glocks
Between the one Taurus auto I had and several other friends have had I have a bad taste for them, to the point you couldn't give me one if I had to keep it. I trust a Hi-point waaaay more than Taurus Automatics
 
Tallball

Good posts on your Taurus and Glock acquisitions. I never really cared for the Glock 26; just felt awkward and uncomfortable in my hands. Had a PT111 (Gen.3), that was well built but I had a problem with the angle on the grip frame that caused the sights to be low as I was getting them on target. The trigger was also a bit long and mushy in both double and single action. At the time I looked at the Glock 19, SA XD (M) Compact, and the S&W M&P Compact before I found the one I wanted: a Ruger SR9c. Felt great in my hand, sights were easy to acquire, and it had the best trigger out of all the other compact 9mm.s I looked at.

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My review of the Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 in a nutshell is that the best thing about it is its price. Everything after that is just "OK". I don't shoot mine a lot, but so far - I've never had a failure.

From reading the Taurus forum I think there are way too many instances of sights falling off and the RSA breaking, but that hasn't happened to me, but then again, my Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 sits in a backpack most of the time and hardly ever gets to the range. Also, those problems are thngs that Taurus can fix, its not a case where you send your gun to Taurus, they can't figure out what is wrong so they send it back to you still not working. They're able to put on new sights and throw in a new RSA. If you lose peace of mind over the reliability of the factory RSA you can buy an after-market one with a steel rod and the after-market RSA is reliable from all that I've read.

You can also get fiber optics sights for the Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 and they stay put once they're installed.

You can get Sig P226 Mec-Gar mags for it, including their 20-rounder:

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You can even get 30 round magazines for the Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 now, although I haven't seen any reviews of these yet:

http://www.buymymags.com/taurus-pt-111-millennium-pro-g2-9mm-30rd/

Some people have suggested that these mags are made by Pro-Mag so exercise caution...

I've read reviews of the new G2C from Taurus owners who have the older G2 PT111 and they say the new G2C has a slightly better trigger than the G2 PT111 and that the gun shoots more accurately. I've seen the blued version of the G2C going for $186.99 - shipped. The stainless steel version can be had for $197.99 - shipped and I think it is worth it to get the stainless slide. Like everything else on the gun, the finish is mediocre at best, so spending an extra 11 bucks to minimize rust issues is worth it. They still put a blued carbon-steel extractor in the stainless version, but - oh well...
 
Irony is a cruel mistress. I don't believe that Taurus firearms are necessarily good. I own several that are mediocre. However, my Old Model 66 357 magnum from the mid '80's has almost as good a trigger as my K22 Masterpiece, and is better than my two otherwise outstanding S&W revolvers. My 1989 Berretta 92 copy has yet to fail with any decent ammunition.

I will consider any Taurus Model 66 or 85 derivatives as probably decent revolvers, and any Beretta-derived or PT11-G2 pistols as probably being okay. Other than that, I avoid Taurus.
 
Tallball

I will consider any Taurus Model 66 or 85 derivatives as probably decent revolvers, and any Beretta-derived or PT11-G2 pistols as probably being okay.

That's about the same way I see it. Friend of mine has a Model 85 that has never given him any problems over many years of service, both as a home defense gun and for concealed carry. I had a PT92 that was well made (stainless steel slide and aluminum alloy frame), and also extremely reliable (though it had a tendency to shoot a bit high with the factory fixed sights). Had a PT111 that while I didn't care for the grip design and wasn't all that thrilled with the trigger and sights; it was still a solidly built gun that worked just fine.
 
Glock 43/26 versus Taurus PT111 G2

Thank you for the write-up.

I have a PT111 G2 that I bought because of the price. I had 991 rounds of 9mm brass that was about to be turned into cartridges and I needed something to shoot them in. I didn't figure shooting 9mm much beyond that since I've been using a 1911 for years.

But, the 9mm brass multiplied like rabbits and I've got a lot more now. Still, once I got my load worked out, the Taurus has gobbled up everything I have fed it, so I would have to give the nod to the Taurus because it has been reliable, accurate, and it left a whole bunch of $20 bills behind in my wallet.
 
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