Some newbie questions

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Tex62

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Hello Everyone,

I am interested in getting into reloading. I plan to start out loading .38 target loads, then maybe .380 and/or 9mm, and eventually some 30-30 for plinking... I am leaning toward getting a Lee Classic Single Stage. I noticed in the sticky that it was suggested that if you are loading for pistol you should consider a turret press. What is the rational?

Also, I will loading .38 for a 6" barrel and will need to use a jacketed bullet (for the range that I shoot at). Any suggestions for a powder and bullet combo?

I have been enjoying reading this section of the forum and look forward to some interaction.

Thanks! :)
 
The general reason I recommend the Lee CLASSSIC turret over their single stage is output. Most pistol shooters fire more rounds per session than rifle and could get quickly bored with the 50-75 round per hour output of the single stage. The turret can be used just like a single stage as the new reloader learns the basics and then in seconds switched to the auto-advancing turret capability.

I went the single stage route and within a few months upgarded to the turret and enjoy the 150-175 rouds per hour output at a very relaxed pace.

High volume shooters will usually opt for a more expensive and complex progressive press to get the 300-500 rounds per hour capacity.
 
So I guess there are no issues using the turret to load rifle too if/when I get into that...
 
Nope! No issues with rifle. I have done 22-250, 223, and 30-06 on my Lee turret press. I love it. I also do 9, 38, 357, and 45 on it as well for pistol rounds. It is extremely versatile with what it can do.

I will be getting a Hornady lock and load progressive in the fall, as I am starting to shoot a lot more and would enjoy more output but for now this is fine.
 
Yeah, I am only looking at 100-200 rounds a month or so for now (unless time and finances grow some...). I will probably hand measure the powder for target loads.
 
Yeah, I am only looking at 100-200 rounds a month or so for now (unless time and finances grow some...). I will probably hand measure the powder for target loads.
Hand weigh with a scale or measure with a thrower or dipper? If you're going to weigh each charge for some reason, don't use the LEE safety scale for that.. way too persnickity with hardly a touch. Get a RCBS 5-0-5 or somesuch for that. However, many, many high end target shooters use a scale verified thrower.
 
Hand weigh with a scale or measure with a thrower or dipper? If you're going to weigh each charge for some reason, don't use the LEE safety scale for that.. way too persnickity with hardly a touch. Get a RCBS 5-0-5 or somesuch for that. However, many, many high end target shooters use a scale verified thrower.

I have heard about the issues with the Lee safety scale. I am debating going the kit route or just hand picking the various tools.

What is a "scale verified thrower".

Thanks.
 
Thanks for all the input...

Does anyone have any suggestions for a powder and jacketed bullet for a begginer to start out with?
 
Since you're starting with .38, .380 and 9mm, I would recommend HP-38/Win 231. They are same but HP-38 is cheaper. You'll get a lot of recommendations for that and Unique. HP-38 will work with most to all bullets in those calibers, meters well, has a good load range and can provide pleasant shooting target loads with most or all bullets.

I don't have any recommendations for the .38, but I'd recommend starting with 95gr and 115gr for .380 and 9mm respectively, because those weights have the most data and choices. If it's 115gr or smaller, both can use the same bullets if you want to save some money or simplify storage.

Here's where I get my bullets and I think they are the best deals out there. Others will probably add a few more.

www.rmrbullets.com

http://www.missouribullet.com/

http://www.montanagoldbullet.com/
 
On scales and Kits

Tex62,

The Lee Scale has a vernier that is a little hard to read and sensitive. But there is a pin that locks it in place, so once you get your desired powder weight set on the scale, the balancing of your powder weight is just as easy, fast and accurate as any other scale. Set it up on a solidly mounted shelf at eye level and it will be fine. On the other hand, I so like my RCBS 10-10 a whole lot better than the 505. The micrometer adjustment is a breeze. I have all three.

The Lee Scale only goes up to 110 grains at most, so if you want to weigh bullets, it won't do.

Kempf's gun shop sells a Kit that includes the Lee Classic Turret, Primer dispenser, powder dispenser and includes a set up deluxe dies (no other kit includes dies). It also includes (the unnecessay) half-dozen ammo boxes from MTM, but does not include a scale, leaving you free to choose your own preference. $210. Add a manual and a scale and you are loading in pretty high style.

Other than the Kempf kit every other kit includes stuff you will find lacking, (and will want to replace) and will have other stuff you do not need (which is a waste of your money). So, except for Kempf's kit, I usually recommend assembling your own kit, adding items past the minimal (Press, Dies, Scale) only as you find the need.

https://kempfgunshop.com/index.php?...facturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=41

Don't get drawn in by the "bargain" price of kits that feature the Deluxe Turret. It operates the same, but is not as strong (in the linkage), not as tall an opening for the cartridges (for those who have large hands or very long cartridges) and the handling of spent primers is dismal.

So you know where I am coming from, in 1975 I started loading on RCBS single stage (first a Jr, then a Rockchucker), moved up to a pair of Lee Pro-1000 progressives and then moved "up" to the Lee Classic Turret. I am much happier with the Classic Turret than I was with the Pro-1000s (which have the same base as the Deluxe Turret, with the same primer dropping problem). During shooting season, I will load 100 to 400 rounds per session in a lazy afternoon. I switch calibers often (7 calibers in all).

Will your range allow plated bullets? They are cheaper than jacketed and use loading data for lead bullets. They are almost indistinguishable from copper jacketed bullets when loaded.

Powder? Trail Boss. Very forgiving. If you double charge a case, it will be obvious. If it does not overflow, you will certainly be able to see the powder very high in the case. Drawback, the bottle looks the same size as a 16 bottle of most other powders, but TB is so voluminous that there is only 9 oz. Load data for jacketed bullets is scarce. TB was originally intended for low power lead bullets and specifically marketed for Cowboy Action Shooting Sports. Hogdon actually recommended against using for jacketed bullets at one time. I understand that jacketed loads are now tested and approved. My shooting buddy (I introduced to reloading) uses it regularly in his 500 S&W. Throwing huge bullets at 800 fps is FUN in a gun that is designed (and heavy enough) for twice that velocity.

Good Luck and thanks for asking our advice.

Lost Sheep

P.S. Certaindeaf (post 14) is right. The riser gets the Powder measure up higher than the primer feeder. Kempf's includes it with their kit. The swivel adapter (included with the Pro Auto-disk powder measure) allows you to position the powder measure closer to the center of rotation of the turret, also an advantage in clearing the primer feeder.
 
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Lost Sheep,

Thanks for all the info. I'll definately look into the Kempf kit. I am shooting tomorrow, so I'll check into the plated bullets. I might just starting shooting at some places that allow lead more too...

Thanks again everyone.
 
Tex,
I started reloading back in 1966, bought a single stage press, still have it. I don't want a fast and furious press, thats just me. I do fine with the single, not saying you have to have one too, this is me! It takes me awhile to reload, yes, never had a KABOOM yet! Knock on wood. :banghead: To each his own, some guys like them, I stay slow and steady.

Good luck!
 
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