post i made regarding a Gun Law FAQ made on a local board(Alabama) by a few LEO's on the board since so many of the questions in the "ask the police" section were regarding gun laws--none of them are shelby county pd's,
http://www.alabamaracingscene.net/forum/showthread.php?p=617919#post617919
just curious what the opinion of thr members was regarding some of the psuedo laws that other counties have made up(shelby...)
and the answers to some of the questions posed
http://www.alabamaracingscene.net/forum/showthread.php?p=617919#post617919
SleepingGT said:gunlawfaq said:Where can I not carry my pistol if I have my license?
County, State, and Federal buildings. Also, you can not carry if you are joining in a demonstration or protest. Also, while not against the law, it is advisable not to carry while consuming alcohol.
what is considered a county/state/federal building besides court houses etc? and which part of the Alabama legal code provides the restrictions?
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Section 13A-11-72
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according to (e) ccw holders are able to carry on public schools, but what does that say or not say about public universities? IE auburn/uab/samford etc13a-11-72 said:Certain persons forbidden to possess pistol.
(a) No person who has been convicted in this state or elsewhere of committing or attempting to commit a crime of violence shall own a pistol or have one in his or her possession or under his or her control.
(b) No person who is a drug addict or an habitual drunkard shall own a pistol or have one in his or her possession or under his or her control.
(c) Subject to the exceptions provided by Section 13A-11-74, no person shall knowingly with intent to do bodily harm carry or possess a deadly weapon on the premises of a public school.
(d) Possession of a deadly weapon with the intent to do bodily harm on the premises of a public school in violation of subsection (c) of this section is a Class C felony.
(e) Law enforcement officers are exempt from this section, and persons with pistol permits issued pursuant to Section 13A-11-75, are exempt from the provisions of subsection (c) of this section.
(f) The term "public school" as used in this section applies only to a school composed of grades K-12 and shall include a school bus used for grades K-12.
(g) The term "deadly weapon" as used in this section means a firearm or anything manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purposes of inflicting death or serious physical injury, and such term includes, but is not limited to, a bazooka, hand grenade, missile, or explosive or incendiary device; a pistol, rifle, or shotgun; or a switch-blade knife, gravity knife, stiletto, sword, or dagger; or any club, baton, billy, black-jack, bludgeon, or metal knuckles.
(Acts 1936, Ex. Sess., No. 82, p. 51; Code 1940, T. 14, §174; Acts 1951, No. 784, p. 1378; Code 1975, §13-6-152; Acts 1994, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 94-817, §1.)
and what about individual county jurisdictions http://www.shelbyso.com/permits.html
is that something that is specific to Shelby county as a qualified/restricted license? Jefferson county makes no mention of it, and the only mention i can find in the Alabama legal code is that of a habitual drunkard or someone addicted to drugsshelbycountysheriffs office said:Quote:
WARNING
Your pistol permit does not authorize you to carry a pistol while consuming alcohol or drugs.
edit: just called the shelby count sheriff office...apparently she directed me to 13a-11-72 saying it was state law...hmm
then went on to say that it was written on the license, which makes it not state law but a qualified license instead even though she told me the license also said "Unrestricted" on it
same shelby county office also has posted
however this code makes no mention of any sporting eventsshelbycountysheriffsoffice said:Quote:
Your pistol permit does not authorize you to carry a pistol at any public gathering such as sporting events, political events, parades, and etc. (Title 13A-11-59)
all it mentions is public demonstrations such as political events, no mention of sporting events in any way shape or form is made...this shat is confusing how people make up their own laws13a-11-59 said:Quote:
13a-11-59
(a) For the purposes of this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings respectively ascribed to them in this subsection, except in those instances where the context clearly indicates a different meaning:
(1) DEMONSTRATION. Demonstrating, picketing, speechmaking or marching, holding of vigils and all other like forms of conduct which involve the communication or expression of views or grievances engaged in by one or more persons, the conduct of which has the effect, intent or propensity to draw a crowd or onlookers. Such term shall not include casual use of property by visitors or tourists which does not have an intent or propensity to attract a crowd or onlookers.
(2) FIREARM. Any pistol, rifle, shotgun or firearm of any kind, whether loaded or not.
(3) LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. Any duly appointed and acting federal, state, county or municipal law enforcement officer, peace officer or investigating officer, or any military or militia personnel called out or directed by constituted authority to keep the law and order, and any park ranger while acting as such on the grounds of a public park and who is on regular duty and present to actively police and control the demonstration, and who is assigned this duty by his department or agency. Such term does not include a peace officer on strike or a peace officer not on duty.
(4) PUBLIC PLACE. Any place to which the general public has access and a right to resort for business, entertainment or other lawful purpose, but does not necessarily mean a place devoted solely to the uses of the public. Such term shall include the front or immediate area or parking lot of any store, shop, restaurant, tavern, shopping center or other place of business. Such term shall also include any public building, the grounds of any public building, or within the curtilage of any public building, or in any public parking lot, public street, right-of-way, sidewalk right-of-way, or within any public park or other public grounds.
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a law enforcement officer, to have in his or her possession or on his or her person or in any vehicle any firearm while participating in or attending any demonstration being held at a public place.
(c) It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a law enforcement officer as defined in subsection (a) of this section, to have in his or her possession or about his or her person or in any vehicle at a point within 1,000 feet of a demonstration at a public place, any firearm after having first been advised by a law enforcement officer that a demonstration was taking place at a public place and after having been ordered by such officer to remove himself or herself from the prescribed area until such time as he or she no longer was in possession of any firearm. This subsection shall not apply to any person in possession of or having on his or her person any firearm within a private dwelling or other private building or structure.
(d) Any person violating any of the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished as provided by law. (Acts 1979, No. 79-455, p. 743; Code 1975, §13-6-131.)
just curious what the opinion of thr members was regarding some of the psuedo laws that other counties have made up(shelby...)
and the answers to some of the questions posed