Someone should resurrect the .25-35 Win

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I have often lamented that there is no in-between levergun , you go from a .22 to a .30-30 (except for the pistol cartridges). I would love to see a lightweight, handy levergun in some caliber around .25 or 6.5. The .25-35 already exists and should work well in existing actions. Obviously there just isn't enough demand. Lever fans these days want .308 ballistics out of 22 inch barrels. I don't get it. Must be old age. To me a handy levergun in .25-35 would be the perfect "woodsloafing" rifle.
 
I will always remember my grandfather's stories of trapping and hunting in Montana in the 30's. He was not really a "gun guy", just an old Nebraska farmer. He's been gone several years now. I heard each and every story many times over since I was a kid.

His buddy Irvy always carried a "25-35 Carbine" (ever hear of one of those? he would ask each time he told the story), and he carried a loaner .45-90. He would tell about how fast Irvy dropped two dear with three shots in about two seconds with his ".25-35 carbine".

His favorite story was about how he and Irvy came across some guy who claimed to work for Winchester in a clearing sitting at a bench, testing some new-fangled thing called a Boat-Tail Bullet (ever hear of them?). He said Irvy looked at the paper target 100 yards away and told the guy he reckoned he could hit it with his 25-35. He lifted his rifle and took a quick shot offhand, hitting the bullseye dead center. The guy, incredulous, begged him to do it again. He told him they were in a hurry and had things to do. As they walked off my grandpa asked him why he didn't take another shot. His reply, "I couldn't do that again in a hundred years!".
He always told me he would give me his collection of shells and mementos. I did end up getting it and sure enough among the other cool old odds and ends is a couple 25-35 rounds, as well as some 45-90's.

Sorry for carrying on with my reminiscing. Not sure I added much in the way of the purpose of your thread, but I've always thought the 25-35 is a neat round, even if it's not the most efficient or practical.
 
Someone did resurrect the .25/35 in a modern sort of way.
The cartridges are called the 6.8 Remington and the 6.5 Grendal.
 
I carried a 25-35 Model 94 as Ranch foreman on a large ranch in Big Sur Ca. in 1978-1980 while I was finishing my degree. It killed lots of dogs, coyotes, racoons skunks badgers, a couple lions and a few downed cattle ect. I really liked that carbine! A friends wife has it now, doing the same thing on another ranch.
 
Year before last, and the last year of production, Winchester did make another run of the .25-35wcf. There were a couple of write-ups in the "Gun Rags" about it. They were even more accurate than the originals.

If I ever see one, I intend to buy it. In case I do, I've already got several hundred 117gr RN's on hand. I also intend to buy additional bullet moulds......................

Rossi/Marlin are you listening ?????
 
The 6.8 and Grendel cannot be used in a levergun (except with box mag) which was the point.

Although I would argue that a SIMPLE (not festooned with all the tacticool doo-dads) AR15 or Mini14 in one of those calibers is the modern equivalent of the do-everything lever gun in a light caliber.
 
There are some good medium calibers available in levers. The pistol calibers are mild mannered for the most part, and with the right loads will do for deer etc. The 357 in a lever makes a good combination small game/deer round. The 44 mag covers even more ground, particulalry if you reload.

My own choice is the 30-30 for the time I spend off the mountain (not in grizzly country). I shoot grouse, squirrels and bunnies with a .310" diameter round ball load with 3 grs Unique powder. The noise level is about like a standard (not high velocity) 22 LR, and it doesnt ruin much meat. I also shoot a 120 gr cast fp bullet with 6 1/2 grs Unique to duplicate the 32-20 round, it also makes a good small game load, but makes more noise than the round ball loads. The round ball loads are great snake loads also.

When using either of these loads, I leave the magazine of my Winchester 94 loaded with full power 170 gr stuff, and just open the action without raising the lifter and drop the light loads in the chamber, shoot (or not), and eject without raising the lifter, or just push the lifter back down to leave an empty chamber or load another light load.


If you arent set up to relaod, you can get a traditional Lee Loader for under $20. If you don't want to start reloading, you can get a chamber adapter to use 32 auto rounds in a 30-30. They work well for small game etc.


You can load a big gun (relatively speaking) down like a small gun, but a small gun will always be a small gun.
 
There are always handgun calibers if you are looking for something between .22 and .30-30 in power. .357 magnum makes a handy carbine.
 
There are some great reduced loads for 30-30 if you reload. There are 100 and 110 bullets. The half jacket plinker is a fun load for shooting and devastating on vermin. Let me know if you need some formulas.
 
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