Someone Want To Explain How A Weapons Ban Works?

[dmxx9900]

So if they banned a gun and you get one anyway and you are caught and you go to jail and then after you served time do the same thing again multiple times do you think they would drop the ban if 100,000 gun owners did the same thing break that law 100 times and keep coming and going from jail not caring about jail at all?

 

[Zoogster]

So if they banned a gun and you get one anyway and you are caught and you go to jail and then after you served time do the same thing again multiple times do you think they would drop the ban if 100,000 gun owners did the same thing break that law 100 times and keep coming and going from jail not caring about jail at all?

Well lets see, hundreds of thousands of criminals do that all the time. I don't see anyone championing thier rights.
You would simply join thier ranks. A gun owner that does not follow the law is branded with new labels: criminal, prohibited person, illegal firearm owner.
At that point much of the community will instantly distance themselves from you to remain credible "legal gun owners". You will not be able to legaly own a firearm, and so will not legaly be a part of the community.

Your question is if enough people simply ignore a law and have no respect for it, will it change. The answer can be yes, but you will still become a felon and criminal in the meantime and remain one afterwards.

Prohibition for example had just that happen. Millions of people simply drank anyways. The law was so ignored that doing so was mainstream, it didn't serve its purpose and was later repealed.
However it was still law at the time, and anyone charged with crimes for it at the time were not suddenly without records after prohibiton ended. They remained convicted criminals who had broken the law, even if it was no longer the law.


So in your case you would simply become a felon. Then you would become a felon in possession of a firearm when you got out and did it again (with a new illegal gun because all your legal guns would have been confiscated.) Where you aquired the firearm from would also get harassed and possibly charged, unless of course you stole it.
So even aquiring a firearm without victimizing someone else would be limited in most places. In many places you would have to victimize another gun owner or support the actions of and purchase it from someone who had(or make your own) to then possess a firearm.
That is how most on the black market get there. Those few from legit sources are traced and those places shut down quickly.

You would then be subject to three strikes laws and/or repeat offender enhancements, weapon enhancements etc in many places and could serve life in prison. So you would definately not do it a

100 times .

Just a few times could be enough to put you away for most of your life.
You would have commited multiple felonies, both possession of the original illegal gun, then the felon is possession of a firearm felonies after, in addition to whatever other crime they happened to charge you with, like possession of the banned weapon type. NFA weapon charges alone for example subject someone to 10 years in prison, and another 10 years if used in a crime I believe.
If at any point you resisted those going to put you away for most of your life, you would obviously be committing additional crimes.

So even if later the law was repealed, and ownership of those weapons became legal, even if largely due to your actions in some sort of movement, you would remain a felon doing time, and your charges would still remain valid. That is unless the law itself was determined to not be valid the entire time it existed by a SCOTUS ruling, because it violated the 2nd, then you would just be guilty of the other crimes commited, like those to obtain the firearm, or against those arresting you etc.

 

[dmxx9900]

I would not do that unless they would ban all guns in US then I would keep all the guns in a secure place and live far away from cities and keep everything underground until the ban is repealed.
If enough people get together and fight a ban through legislation and disobedience then it should be repealed then.Serving life in prison for gun possessions without hurting anyone else is pointless you might as well kill some gang inmates and guards while your at it so they can finish you off and not be a waste of peoples hard earned dollars and a waste of life for 50-80 years in the can.

Thats why you hear of suicide in prisons because of the repetition and horrible conditions in there some inmates there cant take it and hang themselves or get themselves shot by guards imagine a ban on guns in the US and prison sentences for gun owners who disobey it how many suicides and killings would happen in the prisons.A no-win situation for both sides of the fence thats why their will never be an outright ban just some registration and restrictions on certain guns.Zoogster good job explaining though this is just hypothetical what if scenario.

 

[Zoogster]

I would not do that unless they would ban all guns in US

Of course, that is why they never ban them all. Guns are still legal even in the UK.
They just restrict increasing types, and restrict possession, transportation or carrying beyond use.

Few nations in the world have "banned all guns". There is steps and procedures to get some type of firearm in most nations on earth.

 

[dmxx9900]

registration,expensive licensing fees yearly to own it,restrictive requirements,prohibited people lists,training certification,ccw heavily restricted and up to police,mandatory safety storage,assault weapon ban,mag capacity limits,FOID card,ban on handguns in urban environment,limited use age of gun only hunting and target practice,restrictive car storage laws,and the list goes on.The brady campaign and similar groups want to make it so hard to get a gun that it in fact is a covert way to ban guns from 95% of the people only a select few would be eligible to own a gun and use one for limited activities.If you would want a gun you would have to become a police officer which is also restrictive when it comes to being eligible in becoming one.

 

[blackcash88]

Does this now mean that the government can come & take my 1911 that I bought legally before all .45 ACPs were banned?

Oh, they most certainly can. In my state (CT), there's still an AWB in effect. If you didn't register the listed rifles by a certain date, you only have a few choices. Turn it in to the police for destruction, render it permanently inoperable or sell it to a dealer who then can only sell it out of state. Keeping the rifle makes you subject to a Class D felony. I hate this phukin' state and can't wait to leave!

 

[DougDubya]

All these bans will have loopholes, so the gutter rats will have an opportunity to wave bloody shirts around the next time they empower a psychopath's rampage through a "gun free zone."

Otherwise, these bans don't get them to the next stop of their psychotic agenda of mass murder and tyranny.