Sheriff and chief disagree on assault weapons ban

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Wednesday July 28, 2004
Sheriff, chief disagree on assault weapons ban
by BRIAN SHAPPELL


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As the gun control debate still rages and the expiration of a 1994 ban on assault rifles with certain attachments is pending, two of the top cops in Washington County shared differing views on the issue.


Washington County Sheriff Charles Mades does not want the Bush administration to renew any part of the ban in September.


However, Hagerstown Police Department Chief Arthur Smith said he believes any kind of federal gun restrictions should include the guns prevalent at crime scenes involving drug and gang activity.


The 1994 Assault Weapons Act made semiautomatic assault weapons illegal if they had detachable magazines and two or more of the following: a folding or telescoping stock, a pistol grip, a bayonet mount, a flash suppressor or a grenade launcher. Such features often are applied to guns such as the AK-47 and AR-15. The act is set to expire in mid-September.






Mades said he believes the ban should not be renewed or extended for many reasons, primarily because it banned styles of guns that are not common at crime scenes in Washington County.


"Personally, we have not had any assault rifles used in any violent crimes. We didn't see a big outcry of assault rifles being used in this community," Mades said.


Mades also questioned how much of a crime deterrent such laws are because, "people are going to try to get guns to kill people, whether they're legal or not."


"The drug dealer or bad guy, whoever he is, is going to get the gun whether he breaks into the house or elsewise," he said.


Mades said he believes gun regulations should be an issue dealt with on the state or county level.


He and Smith agreed that people in communities know what's best for their own areas.


"The closer you are to the problem, the more intelligent the decision will be," Smith said. "What might not be a problem in western states should not preclude Maryland from saying, 'we've looked at this; these are things we want to control.'"


Smith, who spent 25 years with the Baltimore Police Department, said he believes a federal ban should include the "cheaply made pistols" that have become synonymous with street-level drug activity and gangs. Among those he would like to see on the banned list are handguns such as Cobrays and the Tec-9 series.


Smith said such guns were a serious problem in Baltimore during his time there.


"They are cheap, easily accessible guns that were involved in a lot of crimes," Smith said. "There are a number of weapons that really serve no useful purpose."


Still, Smith said he does not believe extending a ban on certain weapons that meet the criteria outlined by the 1994 law will infringe on the rights of law-abiding hunters and gun enthusiasts.


"I've never seen an AK-47 being used by a hunter," Smith said.
 
>>"I've never seen an AK-47 being used by a hunter," Smith said.<<

Yeah, and I've never seen anyone hunt with an MP-5, yet your guys have them.
 
"I've never seen an AK-47 being used by a hunter," Smith said.

He's never seen my little brother hunt with his.

id10t.


I've hunted with my Garand and AR. I may even hunt with my FAL if I choose to. What's that got to do with anything?

Sorry, rhetorical question posed to the choir.

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
"...synonymous with street-level drug activity and gangs..." And I thought it was just our cops who are overpaid and underworked. Mind you, we all know that criminals don't buy firearms from gun shops. They steal them or steal to get the money to buy them from other criminals. No gangbanger would be caught, um, dead with a cheaply made handgun. No status.
 
Still - back to the same point.

Those guns could still be purchased relatively cheaply. Ya just couldn't have "a detachable magazine and 2 or more of them there thing-a-ma-bobs"

(still trying to figure out why this means my foldable/colapsable stock has to be welded open if i don't have one of the other thingamabobs....)

Either way - you could still get an AK ... or whatever "assault weapon". Even the FBI says has been used in less than 1% of fire arms crims... the "ban" didn't stop that. So i'm still kinda miffed that anyone at all is even worried about it sunseting... unless its a magazine issue... but they never talk about that.... they always focus on the "evil guns".... you know... the one's i could pick up like... tomorrow... well day after tomorrow - ever since that DWI thing they make me wait a day to figure out that other than that one thing, i've had like a couple of speeding tickets in my life... and thats it.

Oooo -or i could get a pre-ban one - that had the goodies on it... like... erm... a flash hider... (/que evil music...) or a .... Bayonete lug (/que eviler music) rofl.... on some level they have even people who should be in the know (Chief) thinking you can't get these guns any more - or worse if he thinks clinton made it illegal to get automatic fire weapons...<roflmao>

Never understand how anyone could look at this "law" and think it any more than a pile of dung that we prolly spent a lot of tax dollars on - that accomplished nothing it was even meant to accomplish.

bleh

J/Tharg!

oh and edit - cheap guns are cheap for a reason - better they have em than me - then i could be sure mine went off correctly.... and sides... if they ever did take the cheap one's off the market... it might make mine and other's collections look even more inviting.... <shiver> While i agree that a propper gangster might have some rep to uphold w/ a status gun - i think most get what they can - and work thier way up.... and i'm guessing they ain't buyin at wally world... <rofl>
 
Interesting that the ELECTED law-enforcement officer is against renewal of the ban, while the HIRED, thus unaccountable to the public except through tons of bureaucratic red tape chief of police is for the ban.

I'm NOT a fan of police, at all.

But I do have some respect for sheriffs, because they're accountable to the electorate, and seem to remember that most of the time.
 
Exactly, JPL. This is one of the biggest reasons I'm against my county forming a "police force", with a Chief of Police appointed by our county's Board of Supervisors. Sheriffs are held directly accountable by the people, and in many ways I think they're closer to the people they serve than the average Chief of Police.
 
This is where I live and I've known Charlie Mades for over fifty years. He's a standup guy and an asset to the community. The police chief on the other hand is a Baltimore reject so that is why the rhetoric about the drug gangs etc. Hagerstown has a real drug problem and on the Northwest side of town shootings and drug activity are common. No AK-47 reports to date. I'm going to wait a day or so to see if there is a response in the letters to the editor and if not, I think I'll take a poke at the Chief. Idiot :banghead:
 
Among those he would like to see on the banned list are handguns such as Cobrays and the Tec-9 series.

Idiot.

Aren't these ALREADY banned by MARYLAND state law? One falls under the "Saturday Night Special" ban, and the other falls under the "Assault Pistol" Ban.
 
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