Sound Suppressors

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From what I see AZ allows silencers. Check through the internet for gun laws by state, should be on ATF website. Process is, find what you want at a dealer, send in paperwork listing that item, with pics of you, fingerprints, $200 and wait for approval. Once approved go to dealer and pick up item you have paid for 3 months prior.
 
I pretty much only maintain the forms there now - there are other good links that have the basic information and there are much better communities in which to ask questions, find sellers, etc. :)
 
Best thing you can do for yourself is to get an NFA trust made. This allows for multiple users of the suppressor and considerably less paperwork and hassle.
 
Best thing you can do for yourself is to get an NFA trust made. This allows for multiple users of the suppressor and considerably less paperwork and hassle.
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Yellowfin Would you mind giving us more details? This sounds cool.

Anyone know what the laws are concerning making your own?
 
Once approved go to dealer and pick up item you have paid for 3 months prior.
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Be prepared to wait substantially more than 3 months. I have paperwork at ATF now for a suppressor and it has been 166 days as of today. Most people have been seeing similar time frames.
 
don't know that I care for the trust route. it's actually more paperwork, but that's besides the point. i'd do a corporate entity before I did a trust and an individual way before either.
 
Like many legal transactions, the ATF will permit individuals, corporate entities, and trusts to execute NFA paperwork.

You can execute NFA paperwork as:

an individual - by far the most simple, yet sometimes complex. you need to obtain permission of your local CLEO and submit fingerprints to the ATF.

a corporate entity - a little more complicated as, essentially, the corporation is the entity executing the paperwork. You may need to submit proof of incorporation to ATF in order to execute the paperwork. You do not own the item; your corporation does. This is good and bad - good as you do not need CLEO permission or fingerprints. Bad as if somebody sues your corporation, the NFA item is a corporate asset and could be attached in the case of a judgment against the corporation. Good because there may be multiple individuals within the corporation that have the right to have possession of the NFA item. Bad because the corporate must continue to exist as a legal entity for as long as you want to keep the items in question - this means that you need to reregister with the secretary of state in your state, pay taxes, have board meetings, etc.

a trust - a lot more complicated as the TRUST owns the items. A trust does not require CLEO signatures or fingerprints, yet trusts are complex legal documents and most attorneys that prepare trusts don't know dick about NFA law. If a trust is found to be improper (not legally, correctly formed), you run the risk of the NFA item being confiscated.

There are a few yahoos running around on the net touting how great trusts are and how easy they are to setup and yada yada yada. The most annoying is a cat that is still in law school and thinks he is the bees knees. Trusts are complex. I'd do a corporate route way before I did a trust.
 
I think that you should go to www.silencerresearch.com and read about the independant reviews there.

For a Glock 19, I wouldn't go with Gemtech. AAC Evo 9 or Tirant 9 are far better choices IMO for a number of reasons: suppression levels, lightweight, FRP, etc.

I have a AAC Evo 9, and SWR Trident 9 and use them both on my Glock 19 along with other hosts.

I am VERY happy with it.

Semper Fidelis,

Kent
 
Like many legal transactions, the ATF will permit individuals, corporate entities, and trusts to execute NFA paperwork.

You can execute NFA paperwork as:

an individual - by far the most simple, yet sometimes complex. you need to obtain permission of your local CLEO and submit fingerprints to the ATF.

a corporate entity - a little more complicated as, essentially, the corporation is the entity executing the paperwork. You may need to submit proof of incorporation to ATF in order to execute the paperwork. You do not own the item; your corporation does. This is good and bad - good as you do not need CLEO permission or fingerprints. Bad as if somebody sues your corporation, the NFA item is a corporate asset and could be attached in the case of a judgment against the corporation. Good because there may be multiple individuals within the corporation that have the right to have possession of the NFA item. Bad because the corporate must continue to exist as a legal entity for as long as you want to keep the items in question - this means that you need to reregister with the secretary of state in your state, pay taxes, have board meetings, etc.

a trust - a lot more complicated as the TRUST owns the items. A trust does not require CLEO signatures or fingerprints, yet trusts are complex legal documents and most attorneys that prepare trusts don't know dick about NFA law. If a trust is found to be improper (not legally, correctly formed), you run the risk of the NFA item being confiscated.

There are a few yahoos running around on the net touting how great trusts are and how easy they are to setup and yada yada yada. The most annoying is a cat that is still in law school and thinks he is the bees knees. Trusts are complex. I'd do a corporate route way before I did a trust.
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Great explaination. My personal feeling is if the CLEO in your area will sign the form, then do it as an individual. I would not mess with corporate or trust unless I could not get the CLEO to sign or I already had a corp. set up. Don't think I would set up a corp. just for NFA purposes. This is just my opinion and I am biased by the fact that I have never had an issue with the CLEO sign off.
 
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