Spanish mauser

[WestKentucky]

I had a Spanish 1916 for a couple years. I still have a couple hundred subsonic 308s loaded for it. My understanding of the gun and all the hoopla around it is that it is strong enough for the nato rounds, but that the nato rounds would be in the general ballpark of a proof load for the gun. No way it will hold up to a whole bunch of them, but it will hold up until it doesn’t. The gun I had aggravated me to no end because I wanted to do something interesting with it but never was able to make a decision on what to do. There were some kits sold at various times to convert them to other chambering and such but nothing recent and apparently those kits weren’t very popular.

If you or your son are inclined to reload, you can reload 308 pretty light and affordable, and the learning curve isn’t huge for something like this. The cartridge is pretty straightforward for reloading, size it, prime it, use a dipper for powder charge, and then seat a bullet. Setup is fairly simple, and since it’s so common the components are available everywhere that sells reloading stuff.

 

[Larry in wyoming]

I had an FR8. I bought it at a gun show back in the 90s when they were cheap and plentiful. I sporterized it with a laminated stock. Had it drilled and tapped. I cut the bolt handle off and had it tig welded back on at a 90 degree angle then machined clean. That rifle fit me like a glove and shot just great. I loaded it with about 40gr of 4064 and a 150gr ballistic tip. It was a deer killing machine. It also accounted for my one black bear. I think I've still got that old peep sight around somewhere.

 

[Mauser fan]

Look, the Spanish M98 were built out of the same materials, for cartridges of the same pressures, as the small ring Mausers. In print writers have been claiming miraculous properties for 98 Mausers, but they are there to push product.

The 98 Mauser is a superior action in terms of shooter protection, and safety features. These features did not make the steel stronger, and there no evidence the Spanish jacked the pressures for the 8mm Mauser or 7mm Mauser when they went large ring.

Just take it easy on these old antiques.

That sums it up.

 

[Slamfire]

That sums it up.

Recently found a kaboom on a French Gunboard of a 1935 FN Mauser. I put the text through Google Translate, so if it is garbled, complain to Google

Mauser belge Kaboom

https://armes-et-tirs.forumpro.fr/t12653-mauser-belge-kaboom

His Belgian mauser of 1935 exploded at the level of the affraid chamber it was not a bullet stuck in the barrel, not a cartridge reloaded too hard, no, just a weapon whose steel had decided that it was the blow too much Evil or Very Mad My friend escapes unscathed left for a good fright. But it is to meditate, a weapon has its limit in time and even without martyring it, one day it can fart you to the g..... e

later poster writes:

It's called metal fatigue, it's best known in aviation. It should also be noted that the steels of those years are less elaborate and refined than those of today, there are a lot of impurities, especially residues of other soft metals. From the danger of old weapons: always be wary of them, observe if nothing moves after each shooting session, a digital caliper, a notebook and take notes on the most sensitive points, as here the Ø outside the room.

The thing is, vintage metallurgy is unpredictable. The steels of the day had lots of random amounts of residual elements which unpredictably weakened the steel. These residual elements were all non oxidizable elements such as copper, nickle, vanadium, tungsten, etc, elements that would not burn out during smelting. Due to the inconsistency of period metallurgy, these things sometime just fail.

 

[Slamfire]

Where are the millions of victims of reciever blow up? Where are the destroyed actions? Only one I’ve ever seen blow up was done on purpose with a full case of pistol powder. I’ve been shooting hot 257 Roberts loads in several ‘93’s and ‘16’s. Never a problem. Stick to the cartridges it was intended for and have fun. Don’t make it a weatherby mag

Around 300 opiod users die every day from overdoses in the US, and each one would claim their practices were safe. Can you provide the names of the dead for just one day? Pick a day. Hmm, maybe no one actually dies from opiods after all.

Recently I met at a Regional an Engineer who supports product liability lawsuits for the firearms industry. And I am going to tell you there are reasons you have not heard of your sarcastic "millions" of victims. Here are two:

1) No one wants to educate you
2) They also realize that you only see what you want to see.

On the first point, attempts to win Darwin awards fund a very profitable ecosystem of legal sharks and alligators. And they need to feed on fresh bodies. I am sure, each and every face removal case that comes in the door is granted with hosanna's. Yahoo!, another stupid idiot who hurt himself!!! Another boat payment coming down the pike!

You have not heard of this, but, then, who wants to warn you? I mean, stupidity pays! The liability guys have their fishing lines in the stupid swamp, and are hoping for a big bite! They also don't want to scare the fish. And, can you conceive of the idea that the court records are sealed on the injury cases that make it to court?. As I was told "the attorney has the data". It is in no ones interest to educate the uneducatable. It is in-fact, a waste of time.

Ignorance is not protection against the unknown. Just because you have not heard of, or it has not happened to you, does not mean it does not happen.

Hey, don't worry. Just take some CDB, that will smooth things over. Everything will be mellow.