Looking for more Ramshot Zip 9mm load data. Currrently using 4.0g with 124g PD at 1.13 OAL and they seem soft/tame. Shot up my chrono so not sure of fps. I will be making some 124g Lee TL boolits soon and would like to try this. Some say this is the same as W231-HP38 but the data and powder look different to me. Shooting USPSA with it so just minor PF is fine (which I should be getting with 4.0gs - but just making it). 4.0 is max according to Ramshot but it seems very conservative to me.
Sparse Ramshot Zip data
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I think you are on the light side with 4.0 grs. as I am using 3.9 in my 125 gr. cast bullet reloads, used for target practice. I believe I did cronograph them at about 950 fps. out of my Sig 226. I think if you want more stout loads, Zip would not be a good choice as I believe it was intended for lite to medium loads. LM
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W231 = HP38 = Ramshot Zip
I have worked up 158 gr loads in 357Mag with that stuff, and it is not great for that.
The cases get stuck too easy.
I have worked up 158 gr loads in 357Mag with that stuff, and it is not great for that.
The cases get stuck too easy.
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If you call Ramshot they will tell you that ZIP is from Belgium so ZIP does not equal HP-38/W231 they're just similar.
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If you call Ramshot they will email or FAX you all the load info you'd ever care to read.
Sure are, and it shoots well in light .45 loads.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=6325632&postcount=20
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Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Start/Max Power Factor COL
Sierra JHP 125 Zip 3.0 810 Start 101 1.0350
Hdy XTP, FMJ-FP, FMJ-RN 124 Zip 3.2 864 Start 107 1.0600
Hdy XTP, FMJ-FP, FMJ-RN 124 Zip 3.7 967 Max 120 1.0600
Speer GD 124 Zip 3.7 870 Start 108 1.1050
Sierra JHP 125 Zip 3.8 970 Max 121 1.0350
Rem GS 124 Zip 3.9 935 Start 116 1.1450
J-all 124 Zip 4.2 990 Accurate 123
Speer GD 124 Zip 4.2 979 Max 121 1.1050
Rem GS 124 Zip 4.6 1055 Max 131 1.1450
L-RN 124 Zip 3.2 920 Start 114 1.050
Cu P-HBFP 124 Zip 3.5 889 Start 110 1.060
Ranier HP 124 Zip 3.7 896 Start 111 1.110
L-RN 124 Zip 3.7 1035 Max 128 1.050
Cu P-RN 124 Zip 3.9 888 Start 110 1.160
Montana Cast L-TCBB 122 Zip 3.9 959 Start 117 1.128
Ranier RN 124 Zip 4.1 945 Start 117 1.160
Cu P-HBFP 124 Zip 4.1 1004 Max 124 1.060
Ranier HP 124 Zip 4.3 1015 Max 126 1.110
Montana Cast L-TCBB 122 Zip 4.3 1065 Max 130 1.128
Cu P-RN 124 Zip 4.4 998 Max 124 1.160
Ranier RN 124 Zip 4.6 1067 Max 132 1.160
Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Start/Max Power Factor COL
Sierra JHP 125 Zip 3.0 810 Start 101 1.0350
Hdy XTP, FMJ-FP, FMJ-RN 124 Zip 3.2 864 Start 107 1.0600
Hdy XTP, FMJ-FP, FMJ-RN 124 Zip 3.7 967 Max 120 1.0600
Speer GD 124 Zip 3.7 870 Start 108 1.1050
Sierra JHP 125 Zip 3.8 970 Max 121 1.0350
Rem GS 124 Zip 3.9 935 Start 116 1.1450
J-all 124 Zip 4.2 990 Accurate 123
Speer GD 124 Zip 4.2 979 Max 121 1.1050
Rem GS 124 Zip 4.6 1055 Max 131 1.1450
L-RN 124 Zip 3.2 920 Start 114 1.050
Cu P-HBFP 124 Zip 3.5 889 Start 110 1.060
Ranier HP 124 Zip 3.7 896 Start 111 1.110
L-RN 124 Zip 3.7 1035 Max 128 1.050
Cu P-RN 124 Zip 3.9 888 Start 110 1.160
Montana Cast L-TCBB 122 Zip 3.9 959 Start 117 1.128
Ranier RN 124 Zip 4.1 945 Start 117 1.160
Cu P-HBFP 124 Zip 4.1 1004 Max 124 1.060
Ranier HP 124 Zip 4.3 1015 Max 126 1.110
Montana Cast L-TCBB 122 Zip 4.3 1065 Max 130 1.128
Cu P-RN 124 Zip 4.4 998 Max 124 1.160
Ranier RN 124 Zip 4.6 1067 Max 132 1.160
Assuming that you have downloaded Ramshots load data from their website, the loads with Zip have a relatively low velocity in the 9mm but there's nothinglow about the pressures listed for the maximum loads. If you feel the need for higher velocities I'd suggest a different powder like True Blue if you want to stick with Ramshot powders. Power Pistol, Win Auto Comp, Universal, Unique, AA#5, HS6 are all good powders for 124/125gr full velocities in the 9mm.
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