Speer hot core 165 gr 3006

[D.ray]

Who here has a tack driving load with this bullet and what jump have you found these bullets do best ?

My vanguard s2 is used for 100 to 200 yards and Nosler boat tails don’t group very well ( to my liking ) at this distance. Sierra flat base 180 gr is what she likes w/ w760@ 52.5 gr , cci 250.

 

[troy fairweather]

Imr 4350, my dad killed a lot of deer with that bullet.

 

[NMachine]

I used to load it over 57 gr of RL16 right out of speers online data. I got 2950 fps with a 22” barrel. 3/4 MOA

 

[D.ray]

I used to load it over 57 gr of RL16 right out of speers online data. I got 2950 fps with a 22” barrel. 3/4 MOA

Remember the jump by chance ?

 

[NMachine]

I just loaded to 3.250 which was the Speer listed COAL. I never measured the jump in my rifle. I sold it to a friend a few months after I had tested that load.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I used H4350 for most of my 30-06 ammo.

With that bullet I would suggest between 57.0gr and 58.0gr and my OAL is 3.235." Of course your gun may prefer a different OAL but it's a place to start. That load is a tack driver for me in several different rifles.

As all alternative 57.0gr IMR4350 works very well too.

 

[GooseGestapo]

56.0gr of IMR4350 and seat bullet to 3.330”

My 1975 Interarms MkX Classic has shot this load under 1” for nearly 5 decades. Killed over 100 deer. Chrono’s 2,775fps from 24”bbl.
56.5gr makes 2,800fps. But from nostalgia, I just load 56.0....

 

[Lennyjoe]

Not a fan of hot core but IMR 4350 and Sierra Game-king JSP kills a DRT out of my Savage 110 every time.

 

[Ks5shooter]

Imr 4350 for most 30-06 loads for me. One finicky rifle liked Imr 4064.

 

[sage5907]

I agree with the others that IMR 4350 is a good choice. If your rifle won't shoot a good group with 57 grains of IMR 4350 it probably won't shoot a good group with anything. I have also used H4350 and Reloader 16 but they didn't do any better than IMR 4350 and maybe not quite as good. I hunted with IMR 4350 for many years but today because of the increased velocity I use Reloader 17 and it will usually give as good a group as IMR 4350 and the velocity will be about 50 fps higher. As a hunter I like my velocity to be close to max. I use the 3.250 OAL that was used by Speer. Some of the newer rifles may shoot better with the bullet set closer to the lands but my older rifles seem to like 3.250 as well or better. I use my reloads in several rifles so I load a generic load that gives good accuracy in all of them. The Speer 165 grain boattail is also a good choice for deer hunting because it opens faster and is very accurate. If you have big bucks in your pocket the 165 grain AccuBond is a good choice because it mushrooms like the advertising pictures and kills quickly but in my experience the Speer is just as accurate.

 

[bigpower491]

If your rifle won't shoot a good group with 57 grains of IMR 4350 it probably won't shoot a good group with anything. .

A big 10-4 to that......my go to 30-06 powder

 

[splattergun]

IMR 4350 57 grains, 165 grn Hot Core. to 3.320" is sub-MOA in my Howa 1500. Don't know my jump, don't care because sub-MOA good enough for me. 168 grn Game Kings work well with this load, too but I'm not a big fan of their terminal performance. But when it's what is on my shelf, it's what I use. Still puts muleys in the freezer.

 

[D.ray]

I’ve been testing a IMR4350 with Nosler boat tails at 100 yards, they do not group well for me. But I will try. Imr 4350 with the flat base hot core.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I’ve been testing a IMR4350 with Nosler boat tails at 100 yards, they do not group well for me. But I will try. Imr 4350 with the flat base hot core.

Please don't take this wrong, are you sure it's the bullet and load that isn't accurate? Is it possibly the rifle or the barrel or even the shooter?
If the rifle has a copper buildup in the barrel you will not group well with any load. If the rifle isn't bedded correctly or the action is loose in the stock, again bad accuracy. Of course if you aren't doing everything the same every shot, no consistency.

Please check everything on the rifle, especially a copper buildup in the barrel. You may not see it because copper is smooth and shiny but it will effect the depth of the rifling and in turn the bullet travel.

If all.else fails, be sure it's not the shooter. Is there any ammo which is accurate in your rifle?

 

[D.ray]

Please don't take this wrong, are you sure it's the bullet and load that isn't accurate? Is it possibly the rifle or the barrel or even the shooter?
If the rifle has a copper buildup in the barrel you will not group well with any load. If the rifle isn't bedded correctly or the action is loose in the stock, again bad accuracy. Of course if you aren't doing everything the same every shot, no consistency.

Please check everything on the rifle, especially a copper buildup in the barrel. You may not see it because copper is smooth and shiny but it will effect the depth of the rifling and in turn the bullet travel.

If all.else fails, be sure it's not the shooter. Is there any ammo which is accurate in your rifle?

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[LoadingPirate]

4350 I still have those pills made years ago. You have to work up your load for accuracy.

 

[sage5907]

I’ve been testing a IMR4350 with Nosler boat tails at 100 yards, they do not group well for me. But I will try. Imr 4350 with the flat base hot core.

I hunt mostly with Nosler Partition bullets in 28 and 30 caliber and I get along with their accuracy because of their performance on game animals. I use the Accubond in my 338-06 and their accuracy and performance on game animals are impressive. But, my general experience when developing a load for a 30-06 is that bullets made my Sierra, Speer and Berger are easier to work with to find an accurate load for a particular rifle. Maybe it's just me, but in my experience with a 30-06 I have less combinations of bullet & powder that shoot well than with any other caliber. All of my 30-06 rifles shoot one particular load really well but it has been hard to branch out to other combinations of bullet and powder. The large number of bullet weights and brands and different powders that I have tried attest to that. Of all the 30 caliber bullets that I use the easiest one to use for me has been the Sierra 150 grain GameKing. All of my rifle love that particular bullet.

 

[jmr40]

I've gotten excellent accuracy and good speeds with both IMR4350 and H4350 in my 30-06 with bullets ranging between 150-180 gr. H4350 is supposed to be more stable across a wide range of temperatures and for that reason alone I prefer it. Otherwise, I'd call it a tie. The load data isn't interchangeable. But my best loads with each were within 1-1.5 gr of powder of being the same.

I bought one box or Speer bullets several years ago when components were hard to find. I never found a load I really liked with that bullet. Given more time and experimenting I could have probably figured it out. But when my usual bullets became available, I went back to Hornady and Nosler.

 

[Thomasss]

For the Speer 165 grain in 30.06 my best results are at 3.270 using 50.0 grains IMR 4064 will yields just over 2700fps and MOA .5 I also shot the same with 57.0 grn. IMR 4451, but I keep coming back to 4064.
I did shoot Nosler's a few years ago in both my Rem. 700 and in a Saur 30.06. I found that Nosler requires extending the bullet out to 3.310 to 3.315 to get half way decent groups. It's a great hunting bullet though.

 

[Lennyjoe]

I hunt mostly with Nosler Partition bullets in 28 and 30 caliber and I get along with their accuracy because of their performance on game animals.

IMR 4350 and 180 grain Nosler Partitions out of my Savage 110 30-06 have put quite a few Elk in my freezer over the years.

 

[D.ray]

Speer’s data shows 3.250. This puts me .095” seated from the lands. I’ll start with .090”.
Thanks for all the input.