I've come across some promising results with my Howa 1500 30-06, loading 165 gr Speer Hotcore over 55-56 gr of IMR4350. I'm getting sub-moa groups in that range, so I think I can work with that However, I neglected to check into the terminal performance of the HCs before I loaded. So before I crack open the dusty old wallet to buy some more, what I would like to know, now that the cart got before the horse, is what have you experienced when hunting with these bullets? Good expansion? As good or better than ol' reliable Rem Core-Lokt? Or should I just keep them for targets?